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Remove lvl Penalties

General Discussion
#1

After reading the RO topic, it made me wonder what would ToS be like if they removed the lvl based exp/dmg penalties and you basically had freedom to lvl where ever you wanted.
Ofcourse parties would have to be redone to suit the new system to stop high lvl players leeching new characters at 200+ maps.
And lets ignore bots, they wont let us have anything nice.

Personally i think this sort of system would compliment ToS. They have all these dmg types, elements and other mechanics that are basically just ignored bc your not really given the option to skip maps.
It would also be interesting to see lvl guides differ from basically just do these maps in this order, do missions daily, do daily dungeon runs til 210+ then find grind parties. But we’ll see guides based on whether you want to solo, party, your class and even build. Cryo grind mage tower til x lvl then go here, Squishy archers here’s a list of high exp maps with no mage types. Ya get the drift.

Anyways what do you guys think?
Btw this is a more of for fun kind of thing, I doubt it would get implemented.

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#2

Would like to see this too but unfortunatelly this would imply a great deal of changes in the mechanics.
The most discouraging thing that gets me down to earth whenever I read a thread like this or get a similiar idea is that our voices here will most certainly never be heard by those people who decide such drasting changes. Why? Because this game is managed in Korea, because there is a language barrier, ofcourse because those people maintaining these forums and responsible for feedback just collect opinions and ideas and report them in their manor or do not report at all and ofcourse because they have enough work with other more critical things.

Yet again I like the idea much and allways liked to look for my own way through a game instead of following a path hard plotted for me by the levels. I remember my days at RO when I played a sage and had to struggle how to level up solo. I found a nice spot in turtle dungeon where I could prevail and gain a lot exp while other classes avoided the place because the turtles hit hard and were quite tanky.

#3

There only 1 probleme about that.
Pet/Necromancer/Sorcerer

There will be way more people camping afk with there pet some low lv place when they either do something complety different or just watching a video.
It sound great, but If this would be put in game they would need to change something like, if you are afk for 5-15 min you don’t receive xp.
(And then we will see alot more of macro to just move a bit each X time and yeah that wouldn’t be legal but they already got trouble to ban everything else than the classic Bot acting player For exemple the auto sp potion of sorcerer)

Good idea but it would require quite alot of work to put in place whitout creating too much probleme.

#4

i think it’s a no
if that happened
hello ! lv 200+ bot flood in few days

#5

Already addressed that in OP.

#6

ignore bots ?

then have fun if after IMC do that about 1 weak later
token was like 1m, 2 months later 2m each
so can you buy it at that price ?

you can’t ignore bots because it will ruin the market and it will be faster if you remove the level penalty

#7

Kind of reminds me of the pics i used to see of orc dun on iRO.
Anyways I agree alot of adjustments would have to be made to adapt to it. But as i said this is more of a what if, not hey IMC come implement this.

Personally I’m getting bummed out lvling my new char, knowing that I have to do the same set of maps again, in basically the same order.

#8

Go take your anti bot crap somewhere else. Frankly I know as well as the next person they’re a huge problem but its getting boring when some how some one brings them up in every topic.

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#10

Just removing the penalties doesn’t work.

If you remove them then then jilling super weak mobs gives you fastest XP, no reward for fighting harder monsters. Bad. Also, even if you could in theory level on all maps, you still had those linear quest chains that give you important rewards like stat points which you are forced to do anyway.

And the damage increase from level difference would actually be a good thing if they actually rewarded that with more XP/drops.

#11

This would unfortunately require quite a bit of reworking, and because of Bots (Even though you want to ignore them), would severely hit the economy. Also the fact that everyone would just be using Demon Prisons, Dina Bee and whatever other low-level maps that have high mob congestion which can be killed in a few seconds to level up even after Lv260 since the EXP gain there solo would be better than partying up in the maps around their level.

A Red Nuo with 138k HP gives 5.3k EXP, but there’s no point in me killing them (In a party too), when I can just go to Demon Prison District 2 and clear hundreds of mobs in under 5 mins solo.

Since removing the penalty isn’t feasible, then you’d probably like them to just give all the other maps Lv200 and beyond a higher spawn rate and maybe implement something like an ‘Invasion’ from a large group of mobs that travel the map when the amount killed on a channel reaches a certain threshold. That would make those other maps within your level range more feasible so that you’re not grinding in one specific map every 10-15 levels.

#12

@HowYouSoGudd

Restrictions are made because of reasons. Mainly to prevent account spamming and RMT of bots etc.

7 days is a little thing to wait in terms of playing this game up to end game since level 280 is unreachable within at least 1 month (unless you are a super sayan)

If you dont like the trade restrictions then please contact support or at least move your post to suggestion thread area.

Also, please next time use the “SEARCH” box since this topic is posted several times and ignored more than that.

Anyway, just wanna inform you… that no one gives a fck.

Have a wonderful day.

#13

@PrinceMarcus
What drugs are you smoking and can i have some? I highly doubt my day would be as wonderful without them.

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#14

Please dont smoke. Its bad for your health. Instead, you can just eat it.

here…

help yourself.

#15

I’ve taken a break from my main to lvl up another character for a change of pace, but i thought most of the popular grind maps from almeth onwards gave 8kk+ exp/hr compared to the 1.8kk or so you get in demon prison.
Anyways it was more of a fun exercise to have a bit of a change of pace from all the ToS is doomed and White Knight battles but i forgot how toxic this forum is and that trolls just bite at anything.

#16

Honestly… I was expecting a meme or something more interesting to look at, not something you find first page of google image search. But owell if thats the best you got.

#17

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#18

I was going to… but ya know things happened.

#19

Oh…youre asking for [quote=“HowYouSoGudd, post:13, topic:306838”]
What drugs are you smoking and can i have some?
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and you are expecting a meme?

i think you dont need any of my drugs…youre more than stoned enough.

#20

I dunno, I’ve seen some of your work and I guess I was just expecting something better. There’s nothing funny or cynical about a picture of a field of weed. Just saying if you want my attention, your gonna have to try harder.