Tree of Savior Forum

Regarding the controversial topic of "BETA KEYS"

Suggestions
#1

I’ve been reading the forums, and the users concerns on the short time I have been on the page.

My thoughts regarding this issue:
Developers should consider prioritizing those who actually participate and post on the forums over those who only logged in for a beta key and closed the tab. People on the forums will give you way more information regarding bugs/exploits/performance issues/improvement features because of their interest, rather than people who only logged in for the beta access and closed the tab just like that… Not to mention those who created multi-accounts just to secure access or for selling purposes (I feel ashamed of this, but some friends did that to secure their access, and I spit on them for it, and they are no longer in our guild/group). What developers should consider doing is to create 2 priorities queue’s, the #1 will benefit the game the most, which is the pro-active user population actively participating in the forums; and #2, which is probably the 80% of all the new accounts registered on the last days who doesn’t have read a single post and just registered because their friends asked them to, this guys won’t bother posting bugs/exploits/performance issues/improvement features at the same rate as those who have been following the game all this time.

In terms of results, I guarantee you that dividing the queue’s will benefit the development of the game more than just randomly selecting from a single pool.

I also suggest you to open up a Youtuber’s/streamers registration queue, for people who has over certain number of followers and traffic, this will give the game good publicity and help it grow up fast without spending a single dime on publicity from IMCGames or the Dev Team side. This can be done in the forums, just posting their Youtube/twitch channel and the account to link the beta key if certain parameters are met (# subcribers/traffic) and you are good to go.

Let me know what you, community and developers, think about this.

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#2

Gotta disagree.
Not everybody is interested in socializing on the forums when they could be socializing in game when it’s out, and posting pointless feedback when the game isn’t even out yet is, as said, pointless.

I as well as many other non-forum regulars will be posting bug reports/feedback as needed, but only when the game is out, even if we don’t take our time to talk about “What anime we watched” or “What game we played yesterday” with random people on a forum. I’d much rather save that discussion for when i’m playing with guildmates upon release.

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#3

I respect your opinion and understand your perspective, I guess we are both generalizing. On a side note, not everyone talk about “anime” or “games played” in the forums. I made a generalization based on my own experience in other games and forums, and people who is not active in the forums is less-likely to report and give good feedback. I know that, I have seen it before.

I hope this specific part “I as well as many other non-forum regulars will be posting bug reports/feedback as needed, but only when the game is out” of what you said in your disagreement statement is real and you stick to it.

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#5

why could you not write these thoughts in the specific threads?

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#6

It’s funny seeing people basically saying the developers should give beta keys out like this. And it always ends in the person posting receiving a key. Just accept the way it’s being done. You get a key or you don’t.

#7

In which one of all of them?..

#8

hmm… Lets go TOS! :smiley:

#9

random - made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision.

#10

I understand your point, but the best is always to give it into the oldest/biggest one and in the worst case, discourse allows you to link your post to the other thread too. making a new one is in the most cases not good

#11

I have to agree, those who at-least read the forums often, come to gain a breadth of knowledge surrounding all the previous issues brought up by other players. Questions won’t be repeated (which we have seen so many times since the new wave of users have shown up). Active forum users before the game is out, will post the most regularly about problems and potential problems. Maybe someone who doesn’t use the forum much will post if a game breaking bug shows itself, however they aren’t the types to actively bring up everything which might be considered abnormal.

There’s no need to join the anime discussion, the keys should just be given out to those who actually read and kept up to date with the important information, and actually posted stuff pertaining to the game itself.

At-least this would be a way of co-coordinating the Beta Key giveaways, rather than throwing them into a crowd and hoping at-least a few people are worth their salt in the game and on the forum when it comes to spotting bugs/issues.

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#12

If the 3rd CBT Is here, it isn’t that hard to wait for the next or OBT…

#13

This is the first CBT for the English version bro. The 3rd CBT is in Korea.

#14

It’ still safer to give it to people who are guaranteed to be real people and not just fake accounts.
Use a little of common sense.

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#15

In terms of likeliness, maybe. Still, you are just pulling numbers unless you can provide actual data, either public or from your own project.

Generally speaking, however, that claim is false. People need to inform themselves to write good feedback and suggestions specific to the game mechanics. They don’t need to participate. Neither they need to do that to write bug reports.
Moreover, there are fan sites with their own communities covering the same topics, sometimes in a specialized way, so there are enough reasons not to even login on official sites.

Lastly, adding such a requirement ensures a wave of spam, offtopic, trivial and redundant conversations, respectively.

#16

I agree, but that can be easily solved by just making it “the people who registered before the announcement have priority over new users”, and you will still avoid a big number of fake accounts taking important spots of people who are actually real people.

#17

That would be true if ensuring the pool of users contains as few secondary accounts as possible was the only intention. That isn’t the case.

Preferring people who coincidentally logged in before the announcement - not to mention there was a high chance the international CBT would be organized over Steam - would be a horrible management and PR decision.

Yes, they should have included a way to prevent registrations with multiple accounts but there are more intelligent and effective ways to that.

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#18

This is very uderstandable. they want ppl who will promote and help the game grow. in the end this is still a business people spent time and money away from there families to make this game a reality. People who do not respect the game or other ppl shud not be prioritized. What makes an MMO is its Gameplay, Content and most importantly its COMMUNITY.

#19

Can I point out some of the ‘old forum posters’ will have gone inactive/uninterested with time? Logging in a long time ago is in no way a better indicator of interest than signing up specifically to get a chance at the beta.

The people who signed up at the announcement did it for more reasons than reselling or more chances to get in.We just cant know. I’m not the only one who was waiting for steam log-in and reading other fan forums while waiting. Some people maybe saw news of a new game entering beta and decided to check it out.
Announcement like this are what bring new users, and that’s a good thing because a part of those will stick and make the community grow.
But what do we see when we get here? Tons of repeating topics from old forum users trying to argue they are somehow more deserving of beta keys, insinuating the new users are all resellers or fake accounts and generally less valuable members of the community, effectively splitting it in before/after announcement camps.
All this over a one week, wipe at the end beta with still rather high odds of getting in.

Yup, great, welcoming community there guys. I really feel like everyone has the best interests of ToS at heart. (/sarcasm)

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#20

All ideas are nice, but they have one catch: They need energy and time to be realised.