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Really sw3 will now have a 60 percent stun ratio from auto attacking?

I was wondering that people were thinking about about how the skill “restrain” is being buffed from 4 percent to 6 percent. This means that going into sw3 has more benefits and if you use the new cards if the added ratio is correct, after leveling up the cards, it may be possible to get 80-100 percent stun ratio?

it works for skills too.

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awesome sw3 is worth it

if the skill had a 100% uptime you could even call like the title of the post, but with only50% it does not make the skill as OP as you think.
on a second note you can go up to 78% using durandall plus restrain gem, or 72% in battle league, since it seems that skill lvl from weapon works on the pvp, so you could just take a durandall to buff and them swap to the main weapon .
and even with everything like this, i bet that ANY swordsman would trade restrain for a skill like QC that gives 50% damage, hell i won’t even say 50% . even 20% or 25% would be better than restrain and make swordsman3 more viable for end game builds.

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still not worth, unles u going for cata pvp build.
with the new card system ppl can get % stun without swordsman 3
also, even with concentrate “buff” its still flat dmg, so only good for pvp

but hey, thats a good buff to pvp cata builds, and with lancer its going to be better too

Add seedmia gem and that is 66%. Add durandal 78%. Add cleric buff .84% hehe

Not exactly because you rarely see swordsman who gets dopple for 50% damage boost in their build. Most people go SW3 or SW2 for restrain and pain barrier in PVP. 40% chance stun is actually more than enough for me, 60% is just flatout OP.

i never said anything about taking dopple please read my post again. and the ONLY reason you rarely see anyone getting it is because is a RANK 6 class . i’m said to put a skill like QC in the swordsman tree to make it more viable later on.
if you HAD a rank1-3 class with a boost of 20-50% damage in swordsman, at least all swordsman i know would choose it, just like all wizards that focus on DPS takes wiz3, even the ones who do pvp would still choose the damage option because once you go top20 or even top30 in your server, something that you rarely see a swordsman doing, but i already got there a few times, you will see that 99,99% of the matches have a PD sometimes you see 2-3 clerics in the same team and more than one is PD, so it would make restrain even more useless and the other options we are talking about here is :
hop1 barb1 highlander2 petal 2 and any of those classes out not give more damage/utility than a 50% damage bonus like the one that QC have.

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If TBL told me anything, its that there are no such things as an OP Swordsman.

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lol 60% is not going to make swordman op.

wiz’s 100% laugh at anything swordie have. Even if restrain is 100%, it is still a lesser version of what wiz got.

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I currently have 20% Restrain and it’s helpful with pistol attacks, pistol shot and hexen dropper. Actually works better than I thought it will. And it will only get better.

Minotaurs are good, but there are other cards, need to find balance.

need to make restrain stun 3 sec duration and increase all attack range by 2x spears length AND 100% to AT LEAST compete with wiz. lol

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paralyze, close enough.

kind of like wiz sleep and frozen in time lol

and there is one really good one… i cant seem to remember what it was… it is this big glowy green circle that turn people into angels

plague doctor walk in “i invented a cure for paralyze!”

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to be fair, cata3 can 1v1 some cleric builds.

if u catch them in a KD chain, it is like a 9 sec stun chain.

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