yea i guess its wrong to speculate for party play. (its just that none of my friends are high enough lvl as swordy in ktos)
But the issues are still there and being a tank as swordsman is bad even at iTos ET.
Just want to bring out the issue so imc gets some idea how swordsman plays out.
I agree that we would need to wait, but this specific point
It’s hard to do anything else when you are melee and mobs have homing magic.
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and autos not even skills they cast…
You’re starting this thread up again because of that guy? He’s really not worth listening to.
Talk to some people that are experiencing the new classes particularly the party play.
I cannot wait til R8 comes out so the hype dies down and we get more buffs from complaints.
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I don’t want to just shill my own topic, but it’s relevant. Some of the other members and I break down some of the disadvantages with Swordsmen, so if you want a more in depth look I’ll leave a link:
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As to what OP said, I agree with you 100%. Rank 8 does not fix the core issues with the Swordsmen class. Personally, I started to really feel the drop in viability at around level 200. It was simply impossible to have any kind of acceptable DPS and survivability.
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As a high level tank I’m having a decent time, I feel like I’m contributing to the efficiency of grind parties and saving a lot of time on pulling large groups of monsters.
Wizards are Tanks now and can stand in the middle of 50 monsters taking 1 damage.
“The Ultimate Tank”, Murmillo, with Lots of CON, can’t kill 4 monsters without almost dying.
Yeah.
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lol sounds like you’re being sarcastic but what you just said is reality…i hate to say this but others are just being blinded by the r8 hype so sad.
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You also forgot that the sage buff is party wide and will become more and more broken if the game survive for r9+
Meanwhile i’m yet to see the murmillo helmet doing it’s job, it’s a self buff and comes with movement speed penalty.
I’m still waiting for a kabba2 + transpose ff2 video, i’m ready to bet this is the new frost cloud.
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It’s a chance to dodge magic attacks…Slithering is better and more reliable though
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The problem isn’t swordies being weak. It’s wizards (and clerics) being overpowered.
get back to your cage mage
then show videos for proof…
Yes we all agree to that but if you’ll ask me i’d rather not touch the wizards as they are happy with what they have right now well clerics can use a little nerf but why should we ask those classes to get nerfed when they can just buff swordsmen to make them on par with the said classes?
as i have said before i really don’t like nerfing other classes just so that there would be equality, just leave them be and buff the one who’s in the end of the string because in most cases when those who are on top gets nerfed alot of people especially the metards will unleash rant rages just like what swords are doing now and that’s what we are preventing from happening.
look at ktos discussion in the general sub forum now lol its getting spammed with sword rants everyday and people are getting annoyed from them and sometimes starts a flame war rofl.
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fencer and dragoon = top tier dps on ktos , if u not have ktos account shut up guy , dragoon now have dethrone 16k base damage 2 overheart and 16 sec cd , and 1 100% damage debuff ( after serpentine all swordsman skill hit 2x+) fencer have crit buff and now crit 40k+ with aa , ( sage missile hole nerfed now it only block 16 hits)
… show us you’re kTOS account then new forum member?
edit:
those were the news post ktos r8 update, after nerf things have changed, lemme guess you’re just getting you’re infos in this thread am i right?
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I have no issues with wizards until they throw stuff like “you don’t know how to play swordman” on me <.<
I hate those entitled players who think any changes that take #1 spot from them are bad change.
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Doppel is better. Dethrone doesn’t even do as much damage as skyliner.
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Duo dethrone does the damage of a single cyclone (non DOV stacked).
Except it is much faster.
It is too early to say how classes are in kTOS.
Even when the first ET rank came, many disagreed with it.