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[RANT] In 7 days, I've encountered 4 bugs/problems

Really? Ahahahah

Yeah, because if you lag to death or you crash directly there is such a big difference :joy_cat:

Two references! Damn! Sorry!

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Yes. I didn’t put any constraint time in the sentence. But I did on the reference.

Still switching arguments.

And you’re wrong telling it was only one!

But… but… time is subjective, you told me so! ahahahah

Yes, you’re right. You got two references, damn. So many people!

Never laughed so hard, thank you!

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I’m the one laughing, rofl.

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So to sum this all up

The man dedicating his life to fighting against false claims and exaggerations resorts to the same false claims and exaggerations to win a stupid argument on a message board

Then loses the argument anyway, because the other side has actual facts and not just empty walls of text.

But instead of admitting he might actually be wrong, we just get more empty walls

Now with 14% more deflection

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Going by how thread went, like the other threads where he ā€˜argued/debated’, it’s probly some odd OCD to be on top of someone, always making sure have the last ā€˜right’ remark.

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Yea, he couldn’t prove I’m a hacker so he stopped replying to me :smiley:

On a serious note, how does this guy have the time to post on forums AND play the game? If I replied as fast as he did I probably wouldn’t be able to eat as well.

Hey lunar please remember to be healthy and eat your meals yea :>

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Nah. I’m just asking more things when people bring claims that aren’t valid.

laughs

Are you back to the game? Yay I got one player back by stopping the trolls. One point for me!!!

Nah, I came back of my own accord. I suggest you take back your word on me being a hacker.

I’ve never even called you any names before. Check my post history. Thanks.

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Since when did IMC hire you for information validity?
Your bout with @TheAlleyCats about a hook(hack) command isn’t something IMC would want being disscused in this forums.
Whether or not the crash/lag command is still there does it matter?
iirc, lag can still crash someone(specially in this game), ironically that’s like directly DDOSing a player ingame.

I liked how you took a jab at @ophiuchu agreeing with @DiMeowgio’s post, proving his cpu vs gpu point in the previous debate you had in the earlier part of this thread.
Really? he attacked you by affirming a point he made previously even if it used someone else’s data?

It really show your personality.

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FYI lunar, this is how you concede defeat. No harm in admitting that you were proven wrong. We are all humans we make mistakes.

In this case, I conceded defeat as your friend Alsheyra is more knowledgeable than me in regards to necros. You know NOTHING about hook64, so you can’t debate and expect to win someone who actually goes on the site itself to collect the data.

Edit: I have no idea how you started calling me a hacker. I never called you names, I didn’t even mention you as a troll.

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It can’t, at least not anymore, feature was removed. You (and others) are answering this based on what people talk about, even though it isn’t true.

It happens. All I want to prevent is people spreading misinformation like that.

Nowadays, you’re not being crashed by Hook64. If you’re being crashed, it’s for another reason and it’s time for you to report a real bug in forums and send a ticket with the information.

What do you prefer? People blaming something else and making it seems worse?

Or dealing with concrete stuff and maybe actually getting the problems fixed?

Did you read what @ophiuchu posted? And then the @DiMeowgio posts?

This totally makes sense. All I’m complaining about is that @ophiuchu takes it and makes it show worse than it is or claim things that aren’t true (such as not using GPU at all, load x fan speed x temperature) etc.

His CPU x GPU point was never CPU x GPU usage. His point was that around the lines of ToS is laggy because it doesn’t uses the GPU to the point of putting it on load and warm up.

Don’t come in trying to make me look bad if you’re reading part of discussion or getting into conclusions without seeing the context.

Like I said, all I want is to make sure we’re talking about concrete things instead of building rumors over rumors that helps nothing in the end but gives more fuel to empty complains.

And if you’re talking about personality. I’d recommend first trying to understand what people are talking around, then see if I have valid points asking/correcting it, then if the person is actually showing if I’m wrong or not, if I am I’ll will accept and that’s it. I’m not the one to not assume I’m wrong, but I won’t do it if I am not just to make someone feel better. (Example: I’m answering to @DiMeowgio and asking sorry.)

What you really should look when talking about personality is then how some people around here starts picking on me, spamming or trolling more, some of those are purely doing it for the fun of it.

Initial discussion: People are saying affirmatives that you can crash people with Hook64 but the feature no longer exists nor would work anymore if it did. Not a wrong claim. Just look what I told you in the beginning of this post. It turns out to be really not work anymore and then it turns into a pointless discussion.

Let me ask you one thing. Am I really the person you should be wondering about the personality of?

Bug no.5 : In addition to dungeons not resetting/ resetting every two days, now we cant enter the instance after queuing up and successfully automatched. Dungeon enter count is also consumed and you get kicked out to lodge. Auto-match re-enter doesnt work either.

I guess one dungeon reset every 2 days is too much for the game :yum:

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Well, I consider myself lucky. I did all the event runs earlier and didn’t lose one. At the moment any dungeon attempt is RNG: you might enter or you might get stuck in the loading screen of doom and lose the run.
Lost only one siaulai run so far.

Conspiracy theory : IMC found out that the loss in TP sales revenue from players purchasing exp tomes is too much to handle, so they decided to insert some ā€˜bugs’ to slow down the leveling :joy:

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I don’t believe in conspiracies, that’s just IMC being IMC: every patch, new bugs :joy_cat:

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Bro, learn not to post theories around here, people need real SOLID HARD EVIDENCE.

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My bad I forgot to post the proof of the bug happening. Here you guys go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

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Didnt read everything here but I needed a place to rant about this…

I just dont understand as software developers or software integration people how you can let this keep happening. Its just bug after bug after bug. At my place we keep track of all software fixes that you put in and they go through rigorous integration and test procedures. We usually have a good understanding of the breakage points so they are always tested out. As for TOS, it almost feels like it has to be some of the atrocious spaghetti code in existence for there to be this much breakage even after they should have thoroughly tested it. Like this is mind numbingly almost impossible for you to &!#$ up this badly… I can understand 1 week or 2 weeks in a row of mistakes. But it feels like this has been going on FOREVER… How are you guys still employed? I would have been fired by the 10th time for putting bug ridden code into the delivery. I want to scream so loudly at these developers and managers for allowing this happen. I do not get it. I simply do not understand how such incompetence can still be allowed to develop and release code. It makes me feel like in their test procedures they have 1 critical path that they test… ā€œCan you log inā€¦ā€ AND THATS IT. They do not check functionality nor do they regression test this…

Please IMC, please… Can you please hire me as a consultant so I can fix this game myself? Better yet, I am sure there at least 20 software engineers here that can fix many of the bugs… Can you just let us help you… I would rather waste 20hrs of my time FIXING this GD game and getting it right then sitting here waiting and wondering for when you guys will eventually fix something and then wondering what else it is that you broke… Just please DO SOMETHING RIGHT. JUST ONCE DO SOMETHING %$#! RIGHT!

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