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Rank 8 Palladin

Class and Rank Cleric
#44

I DO agree Priest 1 is mostly a lost rank (except for Ress), and the OP didn’t even say in what server he plays. In Silute Monstrance scrolls are pretty common FYI.

In a support build with Paladin 3 (I don’t really recommend it due to damage synergy with Inquisitor), I kind of imagine 2 kinds of builds:

Cleric 2 (basic healing for parties) -> Dievdirbys 1 (cooldown statue that attracts aggro + SP cost reducing statue) -> Paladin 3 -> Plague Doctor (good damage synergy with Diev statue, immunity to status and Healing Factor) -> Kabbalist (SP battery, some utility in PvP if you like it)

Cleric 2 -> Krivis 1 (Daino’s buff count increase + Zalciai debuff in crit resistance + Zaibas damage for leveling) -> Paladin 3 -> Plague Doctor 1 -> Taoist (synergy with Zaibas and Elementalist due to electric skills damage buff, AoE cloaking, increased elements resistance)

You can change Diev 1 for Cleric 3, or Priest 1 if you feel the urge to do so. Do take note that since Rank 8 Paladin 3 seems to have a off-support/melee damage role and leveling up a Paladin 3 until R7 is really awful, so if you really like Paladin keep that in mind…

Stat-wise, you might like a huge crapload in CON (about 100 invested points at least because of colossal post-Maven maps monster damage) and about 2:1 INT/SPR invested points, as you’ll be expending a good amount of SP giving support.

Didn’t recommend Miko here because I don’t have really enough information to judge it as a good support.

@aarigonlanzani, if you change your mind and do a melee Paladin 3, take Cleric 2 -> (Diev1/Cleric3) -> Paladin 3 -> Plague Doctor (IMO the best choice, however Kabbalist has huge SP-filling support if that’s your thing) -> Inquisitor. I’d recommend NOT to follow alexandrious2001 as he has lost his mind absolutely. Do take Priest 1 if you feel such an urge, but I personally don’t advise it.

#46

youve never seen a statue AOE have you? what did a diev do to you to mke u hate the clas sso much, face it, diev is better, its litterally one of the only classes in the game that an be taken at any circle and be viable, most classes are onl good at c1, c2, or c3, diev is good at all 3, meaning c1 is a great filler, c2 is an even better filler, and gives a super strong skill, and c3 is one of the most wanted in pvp and pve

#48

Sighs this is why alot of people say that people on the forums are usually idiots who barely played the game. And people have reading comprehension problems.

Yes Tampon, we know they can make them, the thing is, it costs alot of silver to make/use something that lasts only 30 seconds that you will be keeping up practically FULL TIME. sighs…christ. That ontop of the Wheel costs makes it unpractical.

@bluebyu Diev is a crutch, And honestly your probably one of many players who ask “res please” and find out, hey, the two clerics in party cant res, then you bitch about it and ask them why u no priest, then either use a Soul stone or walk all the way back, if you can walk back.

@unicorntheshiny I wonder do you like me burning YOUR ass much at how stupid you are? Your relying on Crutches and perfect scenarios, I played mmos longer than 99.9 percent of this board, over 16 years, and know way better than to ever, rely on a perfect situation, which is what you are doing.

And you will come to a point where you wish you had Resurrection, or that the crit resist of a particular mob is too high and you have no way to boost yourself to make up for it, or you have a co-partner who tells you dude your statues suck, just let me do it im a Diev 3, why not just go hit things and be useful? And it will happen. Closed minded? No I just know how mmos work and I know how things will play out ahead of time, and I know how a Crutch will always get the nerf bat sooner or later in order to clear it away from the meta or to move something to other branches entirely.

Diev 2 > PD1? Ok, lets see how well you do when you get silenced, stunned, blinded, skill locked, etc and then you either die, or cant get a heal off to save anyone, oops, sorry man cant rez you, ya gotta use soulcrystal, im just scrub and I was banking on having a Chronomancer here to make up for my gimp ass, or another cleric to carry me so I can have fun doing a statue buff that doesnt work well for mobile bosses, or kiting around mobs, or when my co cleric has Diev already.

Its easy and affordable huh? So your telling me, that you have probably have 380 points, thats including bonus points, into Dex, thus no con? No str? And you got all 3 accessories with 14 crit rate on em, 5 lv 10 dex cards, and the very least 3 lv 8 gems to reach crit cap? Did you even see what the Korean numbers look like? They reported around 900 Crit Rate needed to reliably 100 percent crit everything.

Oh wait, your banking on always having a Chronomancer buddy with you. Cuz you know, you cant be flexable.

WHAT!? You want to do ET without a Chronomancer! Uh nope. sorry brah, gotta have a Chrono or I aint running that ■■■■! - Unicorntheshiny

/Golfclap Game over. Thats how you get schooled.

OP pick what you want, but try to future proof the build, things can change all the time, like how mobs suddenly now are a Wizards worst nightmare, you never know what can happen next, mobs could suddenly start throwing lots of status ailments around, or have high P.Defense, or be skittish and run away to toss things at you, you never know what can happen in a Korean mmo. Only take Diev if you have a friend you can rely on to make up for your lack of heal/status ailment immunity/support/ress/crit rate. Diev is honestly a crutch, and very likely to be adjusted soon along with Chronomancer due to their overuse. Its part of mmo balancing and if IMC cares about their game at all, this will happen.

#49

Hi You can use SISSEL. That isn’t 14 crit rate.

I am well aware. DIspeller SCROLL YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Wait you totally forget about that shiet.

Do you know that my Archer already hit 800 Crit rate without a need from swift steps? The same goes for a NO Finestra Crit booster Swordie?

Cleric gain no advantage from Dex but you are able to hit 767 Crit rate EASILY. And with quicken boost its over 900

You will only need to invest up to 250/260 dex in total.
You wont’ need CON if you see the latest out line of HP GEARS that provide you will hp. My priest have less than 20 con invested yet i have 25k HP.

I play a Priest 3 with my party and i Had never used Resurrection much unless some retard went in ahead like leeroy.

If you have mitigation + chronomancer around. You will never had issue of needign Ress. It’s as simple as that.

Flexibility? Lol try having time to ress at higher levels of ET. Then tell me about it you will need to kite 99% of the time and the best bet is having a hasted chrono back masking then you ressing.

There is a reason why you need chronomancers HEAVILY at higher tiers.

It’s the same as why you need oracle or SAGE at certain grind maps now until equips are able to mitigate magic damages.

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#50

There is another benefit too, if you want to use Heal offensively due to pt having enough healing, Blessing doubles the damage given by it… It’s probably not much in the later content, but it is still something.

#51

yea i understand. Blessing eat a slot too. Kinda insignificant at level 5 with a dex/str build but it differs to one another.

#52

Did you know that Archer gets bonus crit rate, where Cleric its purely 1:1? Seriously cmon kid. Again with the quicker, your banking on always having a chronomancer. you do not listen, you are probably not even older than 18.

Having time to res? Its literally two seconds. That is nothing. Also apparently, Diev statues got nerfed in the last patch, so now Diev 1 is complete garbage. Gotta have Diev 2, aka sacrifice alot more useful ■■■■, for something that gets overwritten if a Diev 3 comes around.

You literally have, no flexibility, going Diev 2 a MAGIC BASED CLASS in your PHYSICAL INQUISITOR BUILD.

Sighs, kids these days. Hit 767 Crit easily? Sure, if you can afford the cards and the green gems, but oh wait, your probably banking on some secondary weapon, when in reality, you want one of those new shield to keep you alive from ■■■■.

You do not NEED anything, people who rely on a NEEDED build, basically a crutch, basically lacks any sort of skill or creativity, and it will burn them, hard in the end, when something happens to that crutch, it always does, all the time, thats something you learn after playing mmos for so long, you never, ever, rely on a crutch, otherwise it ■■■■■ you over hard. Very hard.

Oh lets not forget, mobs knockback now, know what that means for your statues? :smiley: Think on it.

#53

omg! why do you have to bash someone elses opinions? gems are getting a buff on ktos soon probably giving higher stats, so going with monstrance isn’t an issue, its our choice to go diev so please dnt fck with us with our choices, you want go priest? then go priest we dun care.

so your in ORSHA??? HAHAHA there are barely people there, what makes you think they do monstrance in scroll? I commonly see those in market, silver isn’t a problem, I earn 1.5m a day with my toon.

SO please stop saying priest is far more superior to diev and taking diev1 is a wrong choice, we all have our reasons for picking it, go find yours

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#54

lets just ignore him, whatever are reasons are he would still like to take priest, bashing at diev 1? please! lol

and yeah he doesn’t have any idea how diev2/diev1 can save your ass questing 300+ zones

#55

Then its your choice, but dont say its the god damn meta. And dont cry when your crit isnt enough and you cant understand why. And for gods sakes, dont cry about not wanting to do something with a group if they dont have the perfect setup to make you shine, itll make you look gimp.

#56

Plenty of reasons to bash, statue buffs got nerfed this update for one, and now knockback, which plenty of mobs do, will destroy the statue. Good game. Bet ya didnt know this huh?

Oh and you get that invincible statue at Diev 3 btw, Diev 1 nor 2, will not save your ass, at all. Well, Diev 2 could, until the mob just does a knockback destroying it. lulz.

#57

Knock back on a silence Zone? I already said if i would pick i woulda pick Diev 2 for utilities for example.

Why am i banking on chronomancers so much because i tried PARTIES without chrono and i can’t bypass it without IT ON ET and Higher cap content Try going to Floor 15 ET without Chrono.
If you had finish then come back telling me about it with proof that you bypass 15/20 without chrono.
Simplify cause Sage + chrono mitigation and ultiies is way too good

Swords man does not get bonus critical. People are still able to get CAP CRIT RATE, but that’s retarded since later content depends on party play.

But wait you are too hot headed to be stupid. Mace with 3 slots green gems + off hand with green gems. WAIT MACE ADD MAGIC DAMAGE AS WELL.

You can literally farm out EVERY MATS from the new shield/weapon and it’s easily gotten. Wait you don’t even know how common the drop rate is aren’t you.

I am done here because you are too closed concept minded. Never knew you stoop so low :slight_smile:

I voice out my points only to be bashed where the other i highlighted that can be solved through silver. Yet you keep whining it’s not a viable solution. This is the main reason why the Forums is dying. Cancer like you appearing :slight_smile:

Your mmo experience is nothing . It just shows how arrogant you are putting up airs like you think you would be a veteran. . Bye

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#58

I think you have a poor character lol, dispeller scrolls, monstrance scroll, crit gems, sisels! with the buffs to gems all these could solve your problem with crit jesus!!! not to mention crit headgear! hp headgear! all your problems can be solve by ITEMS! diev tree offers agro, silence, cooldown reudction! getting your statues knock off means you still get the effect on where it was cast! JESUS! IDIOT!. go make a character that can farm to solve those issues

#59

He proud, because he doesn’t hit 280 content yet.
He had sad about his Palainquisitor non stop, but the truth is he hasn’t even reach 270.
He just theory crafting everything, don’t even know everymob in 280 map can literally cast pole of agony, 7k damage spinning bishop, ranked fire bitch who shot 1k/hit, 8 shot/rank, lil’ knight that use rush knock down everytime.
Let him keep his delusion, just let the game hit him in the face

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#60

agreed, He prolly relies on his theory on stuffs without trying to quest for new content stuffs and see how useful a diev is. Monstrance and resu can be solved by other means. maybe he supports party poorly that’s why he needs to keep using resu to them LOL then he calls people who took diev1 idiots. I think you just learn how to play class. knocking back statues doesn’t destroyit lulz

#61

Cant bypass ET without Chronomancer? Sounds like a Git Gud situation. Likely, poor tactics, and used to faceroll. Instead of coordination, something lost upon alot of new gen mmo players, hence why in alot mmos, the hardcore endgame content is really only done by the less than 1 percent of the playerbase.

Thats what my mmo experience is telling me. It shows me you lack any skill, or any way to coordinate and overcome. Therefore your a very weak player, relying on what is cheapest and easiest, and when something hard comes along that requires even basic coordination, you fail, over and over, and over again.

Git Gud.

@hng.ngc.minh

Hng Stupid, because he cant type proper sentences.
Hng, sad about having no experience whatsoever and relying on metas.
Hng doesnt understand the importance of theory-crafting and thinking up strategy and tactics, lacks imagination, would not last a single day in something even as easy as World of Warcraft, hell, FFXIV would kick his ass doing just basic 8 man normal mode runs.
HNG is likely the loldrg in Final Fantasy who is always, down, on the floor.

@ginoang_linx No retard-boy. Thing is, I read, alot, on forums, I ask questions, I talk to many players, and get all the facts nessecary before I do something. And many has told me that the knockback destroys, while others told me it knocks it out of the needed position, both of which will render it useless. They also have a hit limit. I never said people who take it are idiots, but dont expect to do well as a PHYSICAL BASED Palaquisitor, especially in ET, without at least Priest, or some sorta helpful utility. Otherwise your a gimp that overrelies on other players to be a specific meta, and Metas always get burned bad in the end. Your just as much a ■■■■ player as any other Gino, and when things get hard, your likely the first one to put down the keyboard/controller/mouse, and leave. I can easily tell that from your attitude. A very noob attitude.

Also, Res resolved by other means? Have fun once again, asking for rez when you didnt wanna spend even the 4 rechargeable TP on soul crystal, or shoot ya ran out. Just feed IMC that moneh. But yea, GL with that, im sure you have a chronomancer in your pocket to go into everything with ya. Also have fun spending over 200k an hour on Monstrance Scrolls and wheels, dont buy too much RMT silver now!

#62

Have you ever Bypass ET15? Wait you don’t even show proof of your own characters. Nor really ran ET 15 and up.

I rest my case Enjoy your flags. Real Cancer of the forum :slight_smile:

#63

The only cancer is you scrub players who needs to use a crutch, or whatever is easiest and cheapest to use to be able to bypass content, and will deny any player who doesnt fit your required “meta” because your too poor a player to think up even basic strategy. Thus you turn away a buncha players, get them frustrated, have them screaming for a damn circle reset feature so they can appeal to what you want, then they get frustrated and quit, then more and more players get frustrated and quit, as their friends quit, then it ends up a dead game.

Though, in the end, its not really your fault, its IMCs for making classes and content this way, but you still hold some responsibility for always taking the easy way out, instead of getting good and using coordination and tactics.

Thats what Moba players call a Trenchy, what mmorpg pros call a N00b, what MMORPG hardcores call a Gimp. Basically a player who will never get any better because they are too afraid to do something outside of their comfort zone, and believe that the easiest way, is the right way, and end up failing time and time again when something comes up that their way no longer works. Then they get frustrated and quit, or try to overcome it, but end up failing anyway due to not having the experience or a team who learned how to coordinate and experiment.

I know how hard ET is, and I done content 20x harder than ET across many mmos, and it almost always involved a form of coordination and tactics using what it is you have. That is how you learn, that is how you adapt, that is what makes you a better player.

So stay away from any endgame in future mmos that has that kinda content, you will just embarrass yourself and rage quit anyway, or drag others down with you until they get fed up and kick you from static or guild.

#64

Wow a bad ass attacking players who says that “Certain Meta” is not usable and cheapest/easiest. When he wants to save money from using monstrance dispeller scroll then go on BANKING BIG items. When all this can be done via Making a chronomancer friend.
That is future proof permanently.

So you want to spend your life failing in runs?

I am open. You are contradicting yourself here mr Cancer. I am opening people PATH to choose instead of sticking to priest 1. Yet you highly WANT priest 1.

I stated my reason you bash me and said it’s not viable.
It’s not really IMC issue here. It’s your issue. Mr Cancer. I said my piece enjoy your cancerous mindset.

No wonder the forum is cancerous.

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#65

“res will use more often but soul crystal always better”

You cannot always use soul crystal. Not in Earth Tower, not in GvG, not in PvP.

That statement is laughable. also it cost 4 TP.