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R8 Doppel Attribute discussion

Doppel C3 got 4 attribute

for all detail attribute, prop to greyheim

lets talk which attribute is worth the invest and which is not well all of its cost 4.5 which is quit costly

I only test with 2 attribute which is Redel and Punish

my comment is Redel is a must but Punish is soso (Punish attribute make its 3 hit its deal ok dmg but the condition to use is too pain)

Redel attribute only improve damage the multihit still 5 hit (test with practice doll)

so anyone alrdy test Zucken and Zornhau and got a feeling from its? please share

Btw there are trick thats up skill to lv6 to learn attribute then reskill which is work with bash anyone know will its alway work or IMC will fix this later?

Do you have bash lvl 3 to chain into punish?

yes but its still not worth the pain

and punsih easily miss with spiky server like this (mon can rebound or u just miss its)

the damage for me is not worth its (4multi hit but with 15 sec and the need to bash is frustrate)

Nope. Is 14 hits now (5 hits + 180%) without damage improvement. I’ve tested against monsters, but I didn’t like the new delay before the skill (perhaps is my ping).

Zucken deals 8 hits and I will not get Zornhau attibute.

About Punish: I like it. It’s situational and not useless at all. You can use Punish even from away of your target.

Not sure with redel multihit

Its 14 hit on mob but 5 hit on practice dummy

Zornhau attribute sound really great if its improve skill to be 4 multihit

About punish its depend on player i guess

The main problem for me is its hard to use and i use controller so idont have enough slot for all the skill

cross guard attribute debuff+wagon wheel or bash+ punish= alot of hits

Trust me, it’s really 14 hits, not fake multihits. I never believed in these dummies, because even normal Redel has wrong multi-hits against it.

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try using it on furniture object in mission if it does 5 damage out of 14 hits it’s a 5 hit. i haven touch my dopple yet so if you can please do.

Pretty sure 90% of the skill are fake multihits.

ok then Redel is 14 hit and Zucken is 8 hit Zornhau is 4 hit with attribute

looks like we got 26 multihit in doppel arsenal :grin:

btw Sturtzhau testing with dummies its show as 2 multi hit but the damage multiply is mystery

Zwerchhau is 1 fake multihit skill though (and from the looks its no multiplier)

Sturtzhau against mobs has 6 (fake) mult-hits.

yep its 2 true multi hit with 3 fake in each( you can see the crit seperate in 2 set of 3 line damage)

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