Tree of Savior Forum

Question regarding Doppel

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Hi, so I really like what they did on Peltasta 3 so I want to build one and I’d like to build Doppel too. My question is:

How good is Dopple at AoE/mobbing? I know all of the main skills are pretty bad when it comes to aoe(I don’t like Cyclone, it’s too slow) but Dopple do have Punish, so does Punish do it’s job well? Like is it enough to farm/grind with Swash + Punish alone?

I know the popular build is Barbarian/Highlander into Shinobi, but I think Barbarian’s kit is pretty bad, I’ll only take it for the Cleave debuff and I hate Shinobi’s playstyle(have 2 Shinobis), so I might as well be tanky with the new Guardian’s buff and Swash’s passive and have the ability to provoke.

My build would probably be Sw1-Peltasta3-Barbarian-Doppel3, last one idk, probably one more rank of Barbarian/Swordman? I don’t know if there’s another choice :expressionless:

#2

Do you want shield with your doppel?
If no, pelt 2 is enough. SW1>Pelt2>HL2>Barb1>Doppel3

If you don’t like shinobi, that works.

#3

But I won’t get permanent Guardian’s buff and isn’t the skill increases more defense when it’s lv 11?
What does HL brings to the table? I tried it and not impressed with the damage factors, I guess only for fillers?
Yeah, I just don’t like Shinobi’s playstyle, I have 2 in my lodge :pensive:

#4

Guardian level 10 is like 90-95% uptime. I have beetow gem to make it level 11, level 11 is 100% uptime.

Higher guardian level doesn’t do anything regarding defenses, just duration.

HL gives you slash fillers and passive crit attack attribute.

Damage factor on HL skills are strong even only as fillers. 5 skyliners with bleed does good damage. You’ll have to take HL because you already took pelt 2 in and will have less skills to use.

#5

I mean this one,
New attribute for pelt2 + guardian level 6: reduce damage received by 20% .

New attribute for pelt3 + guardian level 11: additional +100% defence increase.

Are those not implemented yet? Or did they change it?

#6

afaik, pelt3 attribute was ommited.

#7

pelt 3 attribute no longer exists, I think it was only on the test server?

+100% def/mdef was already too OP, I think it’s a good idea they had it removed