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Question about compensation. I really don`t understand)

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#1

Good Morning Saviors! :grin:

Someone help me with my question. I really can’t find a logical chain. :blush:

Who sold tokens: :pensive:

  • Have 350-500k silver.

Who buy tokens: :grin:

  • Have a token and 350-500k silver if buy token 4 another 99TP and sell it.
    p.s. maybe some more silver) :wink:

1-st ppl give IMC dollars. :heart_eyes:
2-nd ppl just play) :stuck_out_tongue:

Who wins?):slight_smile:

Pls help me! :open_mouth: Someone said on the forum about some market laws. Someone wrote about my not understanding the problem and the complete lack of logic in my words.

But I still can’t understand why the compensation made in this way? Just a bad joke from IMC?) :smiling_imp:

P.S. I bought three token`s to get TP. But this is not correct)

#2

i can’t understand what you’re asking, do you mind rephrasing?

#3

incorrect number can lead to misunderstanding

after the announcement
Who sold tokens:

  • Have 600-1M silver

Who buy tokens:

  • Have an untradable token and XXX silver (nobody know how much the price wll be after the update applied). and 99TP which can use to buy token after updated
#4

I don`t understand why IMC make compensation system this way)

to taw_24978

Yea) All right) But why?))) :slight_smile: I think 2-nd ppl have more compensations and ppl who buy TP by real money don`t have nothing?)

#5

Yes if you buy token with silver you’ll actually get the 99TP per token after the compensation.

So if you sell the tokens you have now you’re effectively losing on 99TP you could be earning.

People like to argue the price per token right now in silver is similar to what would be 198TP. So according to their theory tokens will lose on value after the compensation (and lower silver price as well). We cannot however tell if the toke price will indeed drop or not, we can only predict.

Right now in SA Silver server everyone is buying tokens to exploit this 99TP compensation feature.

#6

well current tokens in orsha server range from 950k to 1,150 mil.
with the compensation, you’ll get 99 tp but token prices will be halved ( hopefully)
there is no real silver to tp ratio

#7

Right now in Fedimian too and tokens prices about 850-900к) B4 this news ppl can buy tokens 4 450-500k. Thanks IMC) :grin: But question about compensation still open) Answer about tokens will lose on value in TP right only after news about compensation. Coz if ppl still needs only premium and no TP from compensation, tokens preces will be still about 450-500k) :slight_smile: Maybe in TP they lose price, but after that compensation must have ppl, who buy token`s by real money (TP). Why compensation gives to ppl, who speculate now on the market)

#8

token price is inflated because of announcement.
after the patch it should be about half of what it used to be originally (150k-200k)

#9

Regardless of the price, this compensation is an unique exploit that allows you to trade in-game silver for TP. You won’t be able to obtain TP through silver in any other way no matter how much time you played the game.

Right now people are selling 99 TP points and not just the price of the token.

Honestly this is the worst compensation method I think they could come up with.

#10

Yea) all right) But … token prices now base on Premium+99TP. Made now announcemets about ppl, who buy tokens 4 silver dont have any compensation and tokens fust go down and be about 400-500k. And yes, its after they value will be 99TP. Coz now ppl who dont pay any real money 4 play, have a unic chance to have premium items with out real money. But wat about ppl, who by Founders packs and do it by real money? Just smile? :smiley:

Now TPs value go down, coz after 7 of june only very laze players dont have any TP`s)

#11

Dont be angry mrshadow, i promise you i will join my 5000 tp for you.

#12

Oh don’t worry, I will earn lots of TP myself with this compensation.

I may be a hater but I’m not dumb. If IMC officially advertises a new, legal, way to abuse in-game mechanics, I will surely be the first one to abuse it.

#13

5 000 TP) lol 450$. IMC is a great company) :sunglasses: Now i see why bots still live on our servers) When token`s prices be about 350-500k, silver on blackmarket be about 4-5$ (1kk)

So ppl who buy Founders packs have only somesilver from token`s and all that money give to IMC in dollars)

Ppl who buy silver on black market can buy about (about 100$ from founders packs)… gimme sec … 20 mil in silver (if buy only silver by money from founders packs), then buy tokens ... 40 tokens 4 20 mil if they cost about 500k and then have compensation in TP … give me sec … 3 960 TP`s … 356.4$ in real money) And all this money from ppl gone to another sellers, not IMC company.

I hate u IMC) :smiling_imp:

I never buy silver from blackmarket coz it`s illegal. Now i see - im just a fool)

#14

I really didn’t want to post on this subject however why is this so hard for people to understand! Simple logic will solve everything.

Person Who Keeps Token

  1. Buy Token (With TP)
  2. Keeps Token (Gets Refunded 99 TP)

Person Who Sell Token

  1. Buy Token (With TP)
  2. Sells Token (Market Place) for 300,000-1,000,000 Silver

Buy Token With Silver

  1. Buys off market for 300,000-1,000,000 Silver (Token Becomes Untradeable)
  2. IMC Refunds them the 99 TP

Tokens High Silver Price:
This wasn’t only due because of the announcement of the refund. The price raised because people notice the high price of what TP was going to cost and notice that buying a token would take over 20 dollars. The refund only slightly helped it raise it a little higher.

IMC Refund
They had a choice to refund or not to refund that is the question. They could had just simply change the price of tokens without refunding people however I’m sure there would been an uproar if they went that path.

The other path they chooses was to refund people but then the question becomes who should get the refund.

Refund Who?

  • Event Token
    They aren’t counting this token part of the refund because they was a part of a sale deal meaning you didn’t pay with TP.

  • 30 Day Token
    This token can only be got buy two methods one being the TP shop which is what they are changing the price on and they other being market which where players set the price for the token.

The people who kept there tokens will get the refund as well as people who bought tokens for higher prices within the market. While the people who sold their tokens will get the silver they asked for when they sold it.

PS. I clicked the wrong reply button wasn’t meaning to reply to darianum.

#15

Its everything right. But dont u think, ppl who buy Founders packs and sell tokens look at this situation fools. They dont have TP anymore, they dont have tokens and they dont have much silver from tokens sell. Ppl who just play and dont give any money to IMC, now have more silver, more TP and more premium time, compared to those who buy Founders packs.

Why no one think about ppl, who can buy now 4 expample not 4 tokens and sell it 4 silver very cheap some times ago, they can buy now 8 tokens, have the same amount of TP and more silver. And it`s just after one announcement.

Founders fools packs lol. Better just play. :slight_smile:

#16

The prices got higher because people started buying tokens.
And what about the people who bought tokens for 350k each? that have too much of a profit.

darianum has the right idea

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#17

this. did the rest of you all not notice that the token supply is running out, and the token prices are quickly rising, LONG BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT?

there used to be like 30 pages of tokens for sale on Orsha, because they were flooding in from Founders’ Packs and the TP included. practically everyone seemed to think it was a great way to trade TP into silver. of course with a nearly endless supply, the demand was saturated, and prices crashed.

now, the founders packs are gone, and with no other way to get TP, the tokens are starting to run out. a week ago i looked at the market, and they were pricing them at 750k-1.5 million. (Varena tokens -started- at 1.5 to 2m silver, because there were almost no tokens available.)

basic supply and demand people.
too many tokens = low price.
less tokens = higher price.
suddenly a way to turn tokens into TP = way higher prices.