Hey Guys 
Im kinda new to this game and read alot about the swordman Branch.
I would like to focus on pvp/gvg with my swordman and cant decide what the best Choice is? Sword >pelt>hopl>hopl>hopl>doppelsoeld>dragoon
Or
Sword>pelt>hopl>hopl>corsair>corsair> dragoon?
Or is there a Even Better choice for pvp/gvg for swordman? I just want to do a little pve later on.
Thanks for your answers and help!
cata c3 needed for nice PVP/GVG or Corsair
Im thinking about corsair, cata sounds nice but i think its only the mobility of the cata, nothing more what a cata brings to pvp.
How efficient is sword >pelt>hopl>hopl>corsair>corsair>dragoon?
Since the corsair skills focus on 1h Spear + dagger and dragoon focuses on 2h Spear?
You really think it’s all mobility?
RUSH please!!
is it more than only mobilityy what a cata brings?
It is mobility and rush.
And impaler.
Corsair is basically hook and nothing more.
isnt the corsair dmg alot better than the cata dmg? and with jolly roger a strong grp buff?
i just want to figure out what the better/best option for a pvp/gvg focussed dragoon could be^^
btw thanks alot for your answers! 
Swordman != Damage
Swordman == CC machine
Everyone is using Sw3/Cat3/Drag.
But if u want try something different change Cat2+Drag with Corsair C2,Squire C1 .
Man when will people understand that the only viable pvp/gvg swordsman its swdc3-catac3-dopple/goon. Building anything else for pvp oriented its a headache or hoping for iTos to wake up and bring the kTos buffs over to us, even with that its just logic to do damage you need to get to the backline tanking wizz and archers, without cata mobility its just impossible. Everyone here who have played gvg knows how shitty swordsman are there.
So my hope that corsair is viable in pvp/gvg isnt true 
Yep, or you’ll just be a beachball getting thrown around, if not a crash dummy, at least in a GvG setting.
Might work in 1v1 or small-scale group PvP (3v3).
So right now im leveling a swordi
sword 1 ->peltasta 1-> hoplite 1 right now, lvl 62
now im thinking about going for : sword1->peltasta 1->hoplite1-> cata 1-3-> dragoon.
i think this should be viable in pvp ? and not bad in pve because of the peltasta taunt?
i want to focus on pvp but i think swordman 3-> cata3 is a pain in the ass because no group will takes you for grinding parties later on without the taunt. leveling is my biggest problem
what do you guys think about those 2 builds?
the first one is based on max cc, not aiming for dragoon but for corsair 1 for hook.
the second one is a kinda allround build, makes leveling easy but also viable for pvp?
In GvG as corsair can’t you do iron hook and keel haul in one of the casters channeling magic? And then spam spear throw at melee range to keep him/her there?
This game is still new, I’m sure there are other combos 'sides cata3 that haven’t been discovered yet.
Edit: But sword3 -> cata3 is definately the safe bet. Go with that if you dont want to risk anything.
This game is new for us. kTos have been out in korea for months and their swordsman are way more balanced than ours you can actually make a dps swordsman there, and even with that the best swordsman gvg/pvp its swrd c3-catac3 - ?.
iToS and kToS employs different balancing, so they’re like different games.
Lol. True buddy haha but only difference between iTos and kTos (when the iTos came out) is the highlander changes. After that kTos made some improvements on the swordsman tree. So basically kTos buffs provide better options for swordsmans while in iTos if you really want to be a viable pvp/gvg player you might have to follow the meta swrd cata goon.
Anyone can go ahead and create something new, its up to you to go against facts maybe you will create your own 
It’s not just that, there’s also a ton of other changes to OTHER classes which indirectly affect our class.
Maybe you can theorycraft all of it, maybe you can’t. We also don’t know of any other “hidden” changes, ie. undocumented changes.
But yea, I’d still wait & see rather than admit defeat and declare cata3 as the only answer lol.
TBH cata3 seems to me like a 1 trick pony, but it’s possible it’s the best we got.
What are those changes in kToS regarding swordsman class?
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