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PvP cata-goon build

It is better but 40% (with sedmia) is almost the same as SW3 before and by own experience 40% is already more than enough for stun locking. You gain a lot from pelt instead of SW3. Thats 18% evasion, Block and swash buckling compared to additional 20% in restrain and a little bit of improvement on concentrate and pain barrier. You can wall physical with very high evasion while using block and gets to the party very fast.

you don’t get 18% evasion anymore from guardian.
Block just became worse with block penetration from str, it’s a fact that the best pvp swordies are still sword 3 cata 3
i have beaten enough sw 2 peltastas in team battle league to know that.
When your goal is to PVP you don’t care about getting into parties fast.
Guardian now just reduces your attack damage by PERCENTS
yea amazing skill
EDIT: my corretion, you still get 18% evasion from guardian, but it still reduces your attack by 14% at lvl 1 and 28% at lvl 5, which is very bad.
besides, it isn’t hard to take a superior bandit glove and +10 it and stack 2 accuracy gems.
swordsman 3 is still better for pure pvp.
if you want to pve go ahead and go peltasta, you just won’t be better at pvp.

The problem is this build got IMC’d. Which could happen to any build.

It got nerfed twice, before that it was very good.

If you think SW3 is better than SW2/pelt then thats your opinion the fact is SW2 gets the strength of SW3 from before. Saying SW2 sucks at PVP is like saying SW3 before the patch sucks too. For the record all of pelt1 skills are usable at PVP even swash for additional HP with the exception of course on blows something.

i didn’t say its bad for pvp, i said its worse than swordsman c3
60% stun is just better, i 1v1’d a swordman c2 peltasta many times and i won every time especially now, 60% stun means you will stun MOST of the times. you forget that blocking doesn’t make any damage.
Even the original poster agrees with me
it was nerfed too much. and swordsman c3 got buffed.

You defeated all of them because you havent yet encounter someone who knows how to build and to counter your Rush stuns. Good pelt will guard against incoming rush if the timing if off then the problem is the player himself not the skill build. If you go High str youll miss 80% of the time if you fought a pelt with 1.3k+ evasion. If you go dex with lots of accuracy means youre lacking block penetration to kill a pelt while using guard.

keep forgetting that you can always build hybrid, (which is proven to be the best pvp stat build)
you maybe forget that blocking won’t stop imapler.

If it is 1 on 1, guard can still be used while being impaled you can test if you have doubts. Anyway it just means SW2 is viable build for cata3, if you think SW3 restrain 20% gives more than pelt has to offer then go ahead. 40% chance per 3 hits in a sec using Rush still more than enough to stun lock anyone, anything more than that is a waste IMO.

Well since IMC pretty much buffed guardian now this build is still good for PvP.

You can choose between 10% Def for 2% PAtk reduce at lv1 or 17% Def for 5% PAtk reduce at lv5.

Such is the wheel of fortune. You win some you lose some.

Please help. Which is more superior in terms of damage in tbl?

Brandish or maga spear?

Damage on medium monsters 298 is like having a physical atk damage against medium.? So magas has like 400+ p. atk in tbl???

If you have low STR (e.g. high DEX build), Brandish’s bonus STR and block pen could prove useful in specific situations (enemies w/ shields).

Otherwise, Maga Spear against non-shield users.

I am str build . But I managed to save for that +11 brandish with good awakening 28 p atk that is on market now…I am really comtemplating if I should buy that or buy a max petamion instead…then buy a magas spear.

Phys atk on awakening is very rare…

I knew I wasn’t the only one who believe Lv15 Impale is super good especially with catacomb pike, I had an argument with a PVP Cata build user who kept it at Lv1 to spend more points on doom spike/earth wave… I guess it takes more than common sense to know how useful a skill can really be.

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I’m pretty sure it will be enough to destroy any plate armor user in arena once they are impaled, as long as it doesn’t glitch and deal no damage when you smack that is…(still needs fix)

Yeah .I might reset and make doom 1 . Get rid of steed and level 10 impale. But impale ia useless in pve. I just need to level 280 first before I do that.

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@haukinyau @Destructivo I’ve been in a lot of instances in TBL wherein I wish my Impaler was doing more damage (had it at just lv.1).

Doom Spike gets rarely used, perhaps usually just for it’s range and KD. E.wave still trumps it in terms of damage, AOE and CD.

If I ever reset again (likely when R8 is implemented), I’ll probably keep D. Spike at lv.1 and ramp up Impaler at 9.

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But in pve you can slam the impaled in mobs
And deal damage. Problem is for boss though
Need to find to impale first before you slam it to the boss lol. And the damage can it par with doom?

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That’s the question. Is it worth the trade off in terms of damage over time?