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[PVP Balance] Reworking some skills

General Discussion
#1

Hi, i want discuss with you guys a rework/nerf of some skills and try to balance PVP in TOS,

The focus will be Melee Vs Magic/Ranged, and everyone agree that some skill need nerfs to not be so OP against all melee classes.

Stone Skin - Priest C3

NOW:
LV 1: Block: +(80 + SPR × 4)
Duration: 35 seconds , CD: 60 seconds
LV 2: Block: +(160 + SPR × 4)
Duration: 35 seconds , CD: 60 seconds
…
LV 5: Block: +(400 + SPR × 4)
Duration: 35 seconds , CD: 60 seconds

REWORKED:
LV 1: Physical Defense: +(80 + SPR × 4)
Duration: 20 seconds , CD: 50 seconds
LV 2: Physical Defense: +(160 + SPR × 4)
Duration: 20 seconds , CD: 50 seconds
LV 5: Physical Defense: +(400 + SPR × 4)
Duration: 20 seconds , CD: 50 seconds

Subzero Shield - Cryomancer C3
NOW:
LV1: Chance to Freeze: 15% + Absurd Damage on Blocking
Duration: 18 seconds , CD: 45 seconds
LV2: Chance to Freeze: 20% + Absurd Damage on Blocking
Duration: 21 seconds , CD: 45 seconds
LV10: Chance to Freeze: 60% + Absurd Damage on Blocking
Duration: 45 seconds , CD: 45 seconds

REWORKED:
LV1: Chance to Freeze: 1% , 40% Reduced damage from physical atacks
Duration: 5 seconds , CD: 45 seconds
LV2: Chance to Freeze: 2% + 40% Reduced damage from physical atacks
Duration: 7 seconds , CD: 45 seconds
LV10: Chance to Freeze: 10% + 40% Reduced damage from physical atacks
Duration: 23 seconds , CD: 45 seconds

Please comment and make sugestions.

#2

swordsman -> swordscry

#3

I don’t know exactly how damage reduction works but with that Stone Skin + Aspersion I could see people having like 2k+ physical def. Would that be almost as bad as the current Stone Skin?

#4

subzero sheld dont need a rework.

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#5

Lol the cryomancer shield nerf you suggest is retarded.

Go from 60% to 10%

And Absorbtion to 40% Reduction?

What, you want to not get frozen at all and two-shot mages? Yeah i don’t think that is EVER going to happen.

You should realize that mages need full absorbtion because you can cancel their cast with damage, and 10% freeze? he is going to die before he can ever freeze you.

A more suitable nerf would be 40% freeze chance and 80% damage reduction after lower damage absorbtion, or just leave the full damage absorbtion as is.

#6

I’m pretty sure stone skin was already nerfed. maybe that was ktos, and will take awhile to get here.

subzero shield “block” has nothing to do with block chance. the chance of reflecting half the attack is solely dependant on skill level.
I find it interesting that you mention reduced damage on physical. it reflects magic damage too you know. you want to make other mages more OP?
right now there is literally no reason to go cryo2. any suggested changes should be made with cryo2 in mind. this means either limiting it to max level 5, or making low levels of subzero shield useful for something like thaumaturge.

but if your concern is pvp, and any notion of “skill”, randomness should be removed. that includes your swordsman’s random crits, and various status effect chances- instead, higher % chances of freeze should be made into some type of increased slow, instead of incapacitation.

#7

as scorcerbro said. stone skin is receveing a heavy nerf to pvp in ktos. inside arenas, the scalling will be changed from sprx4 to sprx0.5 .

for the cryo shield… i don’t really know if it need nerfs, as i lack pvp experience, but what you are suggesting is pretty much make the skill unavailable in pvp…

#8

QQ about pvp because ur bad, when people cant even play the game

#9

Better than you guys being immune to all physical rofl. You had to play your whole life to get an MVP card that would do that in RO. One skill, subzero shield > all phys dps classes in PVP.

#10

this^^ cryo is a “tank” and thats the only way to tank with it

#11

Yeah but it still gives a LOT of block for a support buff. In that case, High Guard needs a better Block rate buff.

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#12

Lol everyone should just chill out for a moment ktos will be getting a full path class reset on upcoming updates… just need to pray for the imc gods to grants us this.

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#13

I am praing everyday to gods save the swords, they are just pushing bags now.