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PvP 5v5 "Premade" Theory Crafting

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#1

So I see a lot of people are concentrating on their single class potential for PvP. But let’s say in the future they add perhaps a 5v5 premade PvP to the game. What do builds or combination of which 5 classes would you think would be the most OP? (Without picking 2 of the same class).

Personally I would pick these 5

  1. Dievdiryby/Krivis/Linker
  2. Cleric/Paladin (General Support: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/i4zezlxusm/)
    - Edited: 10/12/2015 To make a little more sense.
  3. Max AOE Elementalist ( http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/8k7t2mzqoc//)
    - Edited: 10/12/2015 Fixed slightly, still not optimized
  4. PvP Corsair ( http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/bjaa2nrojt/)
  5. Burst Damage Barbarian

1 - For Linking and Buffs
2 - For added Buffs and Heals
3 - For AoE peel and DPS
4 - For CC with the Hook
5 - For Burst DPS

Note: These 5 probably aren’t the most optimized because I didn’t go through and change the builds to be PvP oriented perfectly but yeah you guys get the point.

What is your dream 5? Theory-craft away (⌐■_■)

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#2
  1. Agree. Probably going to be strong in PvP
  2. Outdated skills. Resurrection’s max level is only until 5 now. And Pardoner/Oracle is going to be useless in PvP
  3. Without Surespell, you’ll get interrupted A LOT. Especially if they have an Archer or a fast unit or a unit with a leap ability like Cataphract or Hoplite
  4. Why go Rodelero and get Double Weapon Assault? Would be good in PvE but probably too much of a hassle in PvP
  5. Also an outdated build. The link even shows Cataphract skills on the Barbarian ranks. Idk if it’s just on my end though
#3

Nah they are outdated LOL. I didn’t take too much time going through the builds because ToS base just came back up after being hacked and a lot of the builds got wiped or bugged in certain ways. But yeah like I more chose the classes for the gist of what they can do. Ignore any flaws of the builds I just picked more of a general like sense.

I didn’t get into CBT1 so I don’t understand the Double Weapon Assault mechanics that well.

Edit: Kind of fixed the builds (?) but yeah they probably still aren’t optimized.

#4

For the Cleric > Priest > Pally, I’d probably get Mass Heal. First, because you can’t have enough Heals. Second, because based on the description, you don’t have to place a tile on the floor which probably means it’s an instant Heal and your teammates won’t need to run back to where you cast the tile. Lastly, based on the Heal calculation of both skills, Mass Heal is probably going to Heal quite a bit more.

#5

5x http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/eepu9trxpd/

Full con. (don’t really need int for psychic pressure)

Telekinesis is still broken in PvP in many ways (pretty much 0 counter to it as well), psychic pressure stuns right after.

Swap is great for putting people in ice prison, etc etc.

Just a win class when it comes to PvP. Expecting a nerf eventually, but enjoy the broken OP while it lasts!

#6

@FatePGN And I didn’t even have to tag you this time. Lol.

#7

I post in other threads too!

Besides the broken build I posted, which can legit be 5 man premade team and have no counter with the current classes (ofcourse latency/reaction speed for telekinesis make this a win/lose team), here’s what I’d like to have:

  1. Something with barbarian/hoplite. Or even a cataphract.
  2. Cleric/pally/priest with auto revive. Just be tanky, keep us healed, give us a 2nd life with auto rev.
  3. Pyro + Ele
  4. Cryo + Psycho
  5. Any type of archer really, so long as they are ranged, and not a rogue or scout, probably don’t want a wugushi either.
#8

Auto Revive as in the Revive skill? Isn’t that a self buff only? Or can you cast it on other people? Tosbase’s description says “Prevents you from becoming Incapable of Combat once.” and the video doesn’t show a target or a tile so I always assumed it was a self buff.

Why no to the 3 classes I was actually interested in? D:

#9

Why not even 1 point on Ice Pike and Gust, but Ice Blast on 9?? If your Ice Wall + Swap fails won’t 1 level of Teleportation be good to let you escape from your own prison?

Reflect Shield is really useless after all on PvP, uh? I wish its attribute gave more blocks instead of increasing the mitigation, then maybe some SPR Wiz classes could make use of it. :confused:

Can we test my Psycho + Pyro ingame? It is only level 100 or so, but I wanna see how my combo fairs in a player. >///<

#10

Honestly, the ice wall was all you really needed, but your right, if things fail, your choices are definitely better.

Reflect shield is pretty useless yeah.

Psycho + Pyro is just as good as Cryo + Pyro in PvP. Tbh, all you need is Psycho.

#11

I got a dumb party lol.

  1. Pyromancer + Chronomancer (Fire Enchant + Quicken, Haste, Slow, Stop)
  2. 1 or 2 Cleric + Priest (Heal, Safety Zone + Sacrament, Blessing, Monstrance, Revive, Mass Heal, Aspersion)
  3. Archer + Sapper (Kneeling Shot + Punji Stake, Spike Shooter, Stake Stockade to block enemy from getting to archers)
  4. Archer + Hunter (Kneeling Shot + Companion Buffs)
  5. If #2 has only 1 then Cryomancer + Linker + Thaumaturge (Ice Wall + Joint Penalty, Hangman’s Knot + Swell Left Arm, Swell Right Arm)

Basically everyone is going to be putting their all into the Archer’s to Auto Attack with Kneeling Shot … :smiley: Probably stupid but it seems funny.