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[PvM] Is Barb3 into Doppel2 or smth finally viable as actual DPS?

Assuming the KR changes to Barb come here, and compared to other classes that have at least decent DPS.

Will this be the day we’re waiting for?!

Feel free to crush my dreams, meme and shitpost as you’d like. Not sure how much of the answer to the question can come from actual data, and how much would be just speculating. But the Swordsmen need hope. And they need it now.


(memes aside, I am kinda hopeful, though it’s not like the class needs to be competitively viable for me to play it)

As long as you have enough mobs near you for your warcry you should be doing fine, the cooldown reduction on it is hugeeee.

Slash bonus from cleave is also nice, but since I haven’t touched any ktos version yet idk.

I like kTOS HL more though with 0 cd and faster skyliner to melt bosses that can bleed

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Kudos to that, we certainly need it.

Its will help alot with cd reduce and 50% slash dmg

But still pale if compare with no cd skyliner and improve animation speed

Best dps for 2hand swordie in ktos should be

Sw1 high2 barb2 dop2

Or

Sw1 high3 barb1 dop2

Cleave then spamming skyliner or cyclone is really good

** I will try calculate dmg of skyliner with cleave bonus

With lv 10 skyliner and 1200 base dmg

[(450+1200)2 from bleed1.4]*1.5= 6930 dmg per hit without crit (13860 percast)

{[<(450+1200)*2 from bleed>*1.5+critdmg lets say its 400]*1.4}*1.5= 11235 dmg per hit if crit (22470 per cast)

*please correct me if my formular are wrong

In cleave debuff span with new animation of skyliner, 3-4 cast in 5 sec should doable

So the burst become really devastrate around 50-70k in 5 sec

Ps. The lack in pelt in this build still make your life hard though

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Assuming the KR changes to Barb come here

You said well. “Assuming”. There are a lot of nice buffs on ktos for swordmens, but the developers prefer modify the trade system or make some strange changes to the cataphract ( today patch) or some visual effect fix…ok. At least, i prefer that they say " We will never apply the ktos patches", but they are saying nothing

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how do we even know which class skill changes we get?
there’s was nothing before and this patch is the first explicitly talking about skills and even then its just a few bug fixes mostly.

The real combo for DPS barb3/doppel2 comes along with Deeds of Valor lvl 10, stack AoE attack ratio from 2x Gladiator band, Vubbe fighter gauntlets, Nulis (the more AoE attack ratio, the more mobs you hit) and you’re good to go:

Cyclone lvl 10 with 50-100% attributes + Rubabos gem (+1 Cyclone skill) + Cleric C2 Divine Might (+1 to all skills)
Seism lvl 10 with 50%+ attributes
Pouncing lvl1 with 50%+ attributes, 10 seconds damaging group of mobs

If you took swordman C2,

Pommel beat does insane damage on stunned mobs, good for PvP as well. Recommended.

You won’t have problems clearing any dungeons, just get enough CON for end-game content (ET), Virtov leather set or plate(if IMC fix the material drop for Royal Guard recipes)

That’s about it. Wait for rank 8, and doppel C3 will be DPS GOD with Deeds of valor lvl 15 and Cyclone lvl 15.

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Just check the forum - Swordmen section. There are a lot of people that post the patches from kToS

yeah ktos patches, not itos patches.
we got the steady aim nerf, but no notice on forums and so it had to be datamined.

@Lostac @KnightXIII 0cd Skyliner sounds op yeah, good aoe sounds more appealing to me though. Hence me asking about Barb3>Doppel2.

@draconsio I’m aware, in the end this is only speculation. They would say “we have to test the changes in KR first”, so that would be the reason for the delay in case we do get the patches. But it’s really nice to know the info in this thread either way, gives me a lot of hope.