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PSA: To all Necro Farmers after the patch

Legal farming is the best farming for me :smiley:

I think IMC isnā€™t yet in the position to cull the playerbase for violations like this. I expect this cancer to stay for awhile. :smiley:

Sigh all you guys are going to be in for a big disappointment if you think imc is gonna be doing anything about bots or necros.

If I had 2k playerbase I wouldnt take the extra effort to lower it even more.

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Then what should normal players do when they see a bot or a necromancer? whispering them is the only option available

Iā€™ll text them
iā€™ll wait a minute for their response

Case A: i get an answer form them -> fine
Case B: they stay silent -> iā€™ll take a screen and then iā€™ll suggest the GMs that maybe they are bots, GMs will verify

@Valkoria 's post clearly said it " If someone doesnā€™t respond to a couple whispers every once in a while when they are legitimately semi afk farming then I guess itā€™s on them because letā€™s be honest folks, its not like thereā€™s going to be THAT many witch hunters running around whispering potential bots every day."

Then i donā€™t give a damn if IMC is going to ignore them because of lower playerbase, iā€™ll just report bots whenever i see one.
also shifting the topic with ā€œthere are bigger problemsā€, ā€œthere are others Botsā€, is not the smartest argument you can use

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Donā€™t really understand what makes so hard to say hi, kind of rude, but whatever flaots your boat mate.

I am sorry, do you work for IMC? I dont think anyone has to reply to your messages.

thats the problem its hard to base it from the player being able to reply or not. i dont find it a solid evidence. idk how anti bot system works or if we even have one but there should be another way to solve these bot problems and IMC should be the one fixing these. if theres really no other option well idk

i was actually surprise when i found out that they are letting players use a class this way its a legal bot thats what a necro really is. its like they are encouraging players to bot thats how i see it. they should have just change necro skills to end all this cause i dont think giving the summons duration is enough but thats probably not gonna happen

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surround them with icewall, many times, if they got angry then they are not afk.

Link 3, Necro 3, farming like a truck.

This discussion is totally ridiculous.
I do not use bot, but I am a system analyst and I can guarantee that any simple bot or script made with Lua can easily read the chat (PM and Normal) of the game when identifying the word ā€œbotā€ answer: ā€œI am not a botā€ .

As for the naĆÆve ones who are saying they will report all the necros that do not answer their questions, I say: You will only fill up the GMs of reports and they will not be able to analyze everything accurately. The result will be that the true bots that are reported and the RMTs will go unpunished.

Or else they will banish everyone and the game will become emptier than it already is.

I even use it to encourage the Necros, if you are not bot and are being pestered by unfounded suspicions that you are a bot, you should receive any questions regarding bots. I advise you: report the player for disturbance.

Once it is proven that you are not bot, it will also prove that you are being pestered by envy.

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This topic is disturbing me. I will report you all and encourage you all to report yourselves so IMC bans everyone but GMs.

If you like the logic behind this comment, please, leave a like (else, youā€™re just pestering me).

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K that is easy to identify since you can ask the same question in a different way and see the same auto-response. That actually makes you even more identifiable as a bot.

And if its plugin is set to only respond once? or after responding once to a question relating to botting they no longer respond or slap you on ignore?

Then you run into the issue that youā€™re assuming someone responding in the same fashion (or not at all) implies they are a botter too, which is not always true (especially in a game with multiple language barriers).

Another problem is its no longer early 2000 where bots only do basic functions anymore, you can pretty much make a bot as close to a human as it gets these days (which is quite amazing really). Iā€™m sure youā€™d be able to catch some poorly designed bots though but some are quite advanced, when my friend from ffxiv showed me his bot in action it made me wonder why I even grind anything anymore, it both amazed and depressed me =/

Donā€™t think Iā€™m telling you to not witch hunt or anything, but just donā€™t assume someone not responding or responds in a certain fashion makes them a bot, thatā€™s not really fair or accurate. Reporting to IMC doesnt really hurt though.

This game isnā€™t popular enough to merit that type of work on a bot, imo.

Exactly!
What you said is the biggest truth, the fact that someone answers or does not answer does not mean that it is or is not a bot.
In my case, I have 2 PCs, I get stopped using necro skills and I play on the PC on the side or I put the other necro of my wifeā€™s account and I watch Youtube movies, often videos about ToS.

But anyway, from now on I will not answer anything and I will report everyone who asks me about bot.

@Remiri
So, have you found me farming AFK? Have you reported me?
I guess you donā€™t know which map Iā€™m farming AFKā€¦ I still havenā€™t seen you here asking anything ā€¦
Did you give up? Soo early!!!

Is it a provocation?

he is searching for bots, not you in particular

Maybe I did, maybe I didnā€™t. Why would I come back to this thread to brag about it?

Because you created the topic threatening the Necromancers who were trying to farm ā€¦ And saying that the only way necromancers could do this was through macros and bots.
And he said he would report and that he hoped they would be banned.
If you do not remember is to read what you wrote.

Remiri
"I will be walking popular maps and reporting everyone still trying to necro farm, since the only way to do it is with macros or straight up botting.

Be warned. Hopefully some of them get banned so we can remove their dirty silver from the market. "

I always played with Necromancer and always farmed, and always suffered bullying in various ways by playing with Necromancer, offended countless times, pushed by ice wall by Cryo-Chrono, mobs altered by Oracles and here again even saying that the silver I Gain in the game is dirty.

Once again I repeat: Who created the Necromancer class was the IMC, I am happy because I always liked to play with the summoner class, if you do not like it, go away, people who are envious, badly educated and who threaten and offend others do not need .

When I read I felt extremely offended and threatened. But just as you think itā€™s bad that IMC does nothing against the bots, I also think itā€™s bad that it leaves people like you coming here on the official forum and offending other players out of sheer envy.

P.S .: Itā€™s no use editing the initial post because I already took a Print Screen.

If you arenā€™t AFK farming then good for you.