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PSA: Monster card tooltips are inaccurate

Just equipped a Nuaele card. It does not provide +1 magic defense per star level, it seems to actually provide +3.5.

Also, generally known by now, but Manticen provides 1/2 the movement speed it claims it does, and both +% attack after using an SP potion cards last 4 seconds rather than 10.

Anyone else found monster cards that are actually better (or worse) than stated? Most other cards I’ve tested are just a flat +1, but any exceptions could be significant.

We got the updated card effects on ktos, but not the updated card description. I guess we are gonna get it on a next mainteance.

Is there a list of the updated effects?

The nuaele card is 10% (for lvl 10) mdef and stacking multiple works.

Well that’s pretty great.

I wonder if Nuaele is one of the new 330 WBs in KR, or one of the new dungeon bosses? AFAIK you can’t get this card anymore otherwise since quest cards were removed.

Yeah I’m wondering how to get this card now that it’s removed. Thanks to alts I was able to stack 3 lvl 10s with a few extra to level up, but…turns out…even though it’s %, mdef isn’t that great compared to other cards for damage or utility. 30% mdef isn’t actually as helpful as it sounds, sadly, and you’re probably better off buying barrier scrolls or something.

It should multiply the mdef you get from things like barrier as well though.

well, with the new boots for swords, plus the new shield we can have 200 extra mdef on those two equips alone, this seems little low right now, but if they add more equips like that, those 30-50% mdef could be really good, to use on PVP.
too bad that i only have 2, and not enough card for upgrade to +10.

It’s definitely true that as we gain more mdef from other sources the card itself becomes more valuable but tbh, with the massive power creep on the offensive scale, I can’t help but think mdef is just plain not valuable compared to the burst that stacked chapparition or glass mole cards can provide for offensive classes, or even what yeti/blut cards would give once people figure out where they come from for defense. Idk yet, but I now have 3 unequipped lvl 9 nuaeles, sadly. I was testing the effects of the couple hundred mdef I was getting from the three cards and tbh, it made very little difference- so little that I became quite upset that I actually spent the 150 cards to level up those three…lol. On the field against the kalejimas maidens, for example, it seemed about 1:1.5 mdef:dmg mitigated. Which meant for attacks doing 3k damage to me…200-300 dmg was mitigated. meh. I’m sure someone has a proper formula for it but to me, I’d rather have the burst from chappy instead.

Well I think it depends heavily on your build and class. Like @nery_ma said, Swordsmen can get a pretty substantial amount of m.def now while still wearing plate to not gimp themselves against physical damage.

This is true! I just hope that defensive stats get gear to scale them appropriately to the massive power spike coming in r8.