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Priests are completely unwelcome?

So with every single cleric being able to fully heal, and there having no penalty on dying, are there any actual room for priests in game?

I’m on a lvl 75 priest c2 in icbt2 and I find it almost impossible to grind any further without the help of a friend carrying since you can’t just basic attack your way up with stronger enemies. Damage dealing skills are definitely important here, as quick kills equals quicker grinding.

Sacrament and Blessing are completely not worth it as it is counted as another damage source, and subject to further damage reductions from defense. Sacrament gives a small amount of holy damage as bonus for a slight cost to silver, while Blessing gives a rather large amount of damage as bonus but has a ridiculous cost for keeping it up. Sure you can always use deprotected zone with a full SPR build, but it has its limits with cd and aoe.

Monstrance raises a pitiful amount of DEX, and also debuffs the monster with a very small area that lasts for a very short time. The actual debuff lasts for a longer time, fortunately. There isn’t a need for builds for large amount of DEX right now since majority of people just play a barbarian with ridiculous damage, so hence why I mentioned pitiful

Aspersion only raises physical defense, which no one really dies in this game as long as your cleric isn’t fully retarded

Ressurect is completely pointless other than removing the need to return to the battlefield. Not to mention bugs, there is completely no use in resurrecting someone since the only penalty is durability loss, and that applies right after dying.

Mass heal is your average party heal skill, I’m fine with that.

Revive AKA auto life for everyone is the ONLY skill that actually redeems having a priest. Sadly, this skill does not help whatsoever in grinding since people don’t really die while grinding.

I know I’m far from endgame, but I have been stuck at 70s for a day. I don’t see myself getting anywhere to 80 anytime soon since no one actually wants to party a priest due to the fact that they don’t really contribute to grinding even with blessing up constantly. Neither would a priest want to join parties with individual loot because they don’t get any loot since they DON’T really do damage except for basic attacks.

Even in the tenet dungeon where I was a lv 60 priest, there was no point in having me even with my damage buffs up constantly. I doubt it changes in higher dungeons since every cleric can full heal. It costs about 700-1000 silver every dungeon run to keep buffs up, and the buffs barely pales in comparison to having an cleric that can do damage like krivis and bokors.

I can probably very slowly basic attack my way up to 80, but that’ll probably take 3 days for 5 levels even with the 3x exp rate.

My suggestions?

Have actual death penalties that are relieved by resurrect because priests are the only one who can revive.
Make buffs more permanent and give better damage boosts that actually reasons for having a priest in your grind party
Raise the buff limit to 10 (krivis already have heals AND a major source of damage, they don’t need daino to grind or even get invited)
Reduce the cleric heal amount for all clerics because 5 x 10% + a bunch of calculations with 2 overheats is far too strong and completely undermines priest’s healing and revival abilities which are at the expense of damage skills in the game

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I agree. Priests are a lil bit underwhelming. They are needed for later phases but ironically they are somewhat unneeded in grind parties.

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I think you’ve just been running into selfish people. I’m a Wizard player and I take any healer, whenever, wherever. Tbh you could just sit there using nothing but heals and I’m fine with that, thats actually why I need you.

Yeah, Priests aren’t super useful to the popular grinding classes but I am a Cryo base and I don’t just faceroll my way through levels, so having a Priest helps me immensely.

I am no Barbarian, my DEX is 4, Monstrance helps me immensely.

Blessing and Sacrament mean I can use basic attacks more and conserve SP.

Revive and Resurrection mean even if I goof I know someone has my back. Also I think people are taking these iCoins for granted; I don’t think they’re going to be as easily accessible during OBT and live release. Therefore, those revive tools are going to be super useful later on.

And finally, I think IMC is planning to make actual hard content later on where being just being a Swordsman isn’t going to cut it, and thats when they really need a Priest on the team. So no worries, just cause you think you’re useless doesn’t mean you are/will be useless in the future.

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I mained as a Priest in Ragnarok for nearly a decade and have been a healer in every MMO from Everquest to WoW and FFXI&XIV. Right now the state of full support is a complete joke, I seriously hope something changes to make the playstyle viable.

As it currently stands you’re much better off with an additional damage dealer than a support.

I find sacrament and blessing pretty lacking, blessing is pain to upkeep and it costs materials to use +scaling becomes a bit worse throughout the game and the same for sacrament, when you get a holy weak mob it’s pretty nice but other than that quite meh.

Buffs should scale better from skill levels or get better scaling from one of your stats. Also monstrance duration imo is way too short, but i like the dex buff.

Also in my own experience at level 70+ your auto-attack will become lacking and you don’t have other significant damage skills if you’re building for monk, all the weapons that would be an upgrade for me are expensive and the amount of damage they give aren’t worth the price imo.

I’m currently using +5 spiked club with 65 str and 40dex +some con

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You gotta understand that this is a beta with increased rates and rewards, too.
People won’t normally have iCoins to spam. While I agree that Priests need a bit of help, they’re not as bad as you may think.

““Sacrament and Blessing are completely not worth””???

Well, first lets talk about bless: its not another damage source, it buffs you hit, the number in yellow you see when you attack, is the modifier, like “50% magic”. The only diference is that bless don’t give porcentage, it gives an absolute number, but it still a damage buff and not another sorce or damage.
(remembering that bless buffs ALL your damage, including the sacrament or each hit of you offensive heal).

Sacrament gives an second hit, that is HOLY so physical and magic defense do not apply. So, it’s normally go direct to the health. And need less to say the sinergy with bless buffing this holy hit too.

Well… the point is, we Prists do not leveling like some offensive class, because we are NOT made for this, but still we can give our way.

To finish it off… not all grinds need heal, and a prist is not the best class for solo leveling. IF you want to play with the class, you have to deal with it, because this is not a problem, its just an Characteristic of this role in RPGs.

EDIT: I tested my friend damage with Bless and Sacrament and it got more then 20% higher. So imagine 4 people doing 20% more damage, that means they hit basically for one more, just for been buffed.

adding on to the post above, just tested this a second ago. currently lv 79, fresh C3 priest. Auto-attacked a lv 85 mob, hit 55. Applied maxed sacrament and maxed blessing (Atrribute lv 22), hit the same mob for 237+3XX , which is basically 11x the damage I would have done without the buffs.

Also, running a 3:1 SPR:INT build, and I never ever use potions

Takes a deep breath

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

If you were serious then go play something else if holding Z is displeasing for you as a priest. lrn2lvl10blessing

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Currently priest C3. Im not havinh any issue with the class so far. Got blessing lvl10 (with passiv increasing dmg lvl 30) , that gives + 110 dmg to ALL attack And spell And got sacrament lvl 8 . Still listenning to friends having hard days with bosses when i just faceroll every bosses staying still in front of him. Each square of heal (rank 5 ) deals like 350+ dmg + cure( rank 5 ) 250dmg per tick + exorcise (rank 1) 350 per tick + auto attack ( average 300 . All with blessing And sacrament And a 3:1 INT/SPR . Try to change skills And attrib And Will be fine i guess.

So I guess it is worth it to keep playing a Priest. I hope I will be needed in partys at higher levels.

Leveling a full support character is suffering, that’s just how the world works.

It’s always been like this.

But usually it always pays off in the form of amazing buffs that other classes desperatly need

Honestly … Grinding would be a pain without a good ol healer in the party … So they are sure welcome anytime in my party lol

A healer would save me so much time instead of me having to sit at a campfire for minutes only to have half my hp healed, note I have 16khp and my recovery rate is 147hp every couple seconds…now that’s what I call a exp waste!

This, upgrade the attribute for heal and cure’s damage. My cure STEAMROLLS bosses so hard, it does about 500 damage per tick and its only level 5.

Have you tried going to mausoleum constructor’s map? The mob density there is pretty good, and with bless+sacrament, and equipment like golden falchion and strength bracelet etc, plus 100% Holy damage from sacrament + additional slash damage, you can pretty much slice through everything like butter. That’s my lvl 76 priest.

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they need to make blessing exclusive to party member only, people are leeching blessing

and when i click them to party together, they refuse

but when the duration of blessing is near gone… they back, pretending to hunting or chatting near me only to just get the blessing again because the radius of blessing is so far

you know what worse? when i sit down and use my paladin restoration (with lv 5 SP regen on it) they sit down near me

and guess what… i invite them to party, they refuse, such a parasite…

please make blessing and restoration for party member only

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Is aspersion even worth it? I feel like for 50 silver a pop a pretty short duration and pretty ■■■■ damage I’m better off investing in monstrance.