I’ve wondering why the buffs on the priest don’t last that long, I mean, when you buy them from a pardoner they last 1 hour, but when you use them as a priest, they last like 45 seconds (Blessing), I find it a little unfair to the priest, I hope the Priest receives a little upgrade on some of the buffs, like make them last 5 minutes or something.
The only short duration buff is blessing, and the real one is far supperior than the scroll one.
Even if last one hour will banish much before than a real blessing because doesnt have the hit-count atribute, aswell has less damage for not having the damage atribute.
Dont understand your point as the rest of buffs have pretty long duration , but still you can use the real one and the scroll one, they have different cooldowns.
The scroll blessing has both the hit-count and the damage atribute, if you look at the damage you do, you can se you hit 170 with blessing, that means it has the atributes on
Study it again, you dont passed the finals. Check if ur using the scroll in a character that has the atributes himself.
Only priests have that atribute, so no, the atributes are from the pardoner who sold the scroll, see it for yourself
At least it keeps us busy when we go for a full support build. Just casting buffs once every 5 minutes and just follow the group the rest of the time would be boring.
For Simony scrolls:
- Pardoner’s stats and attributes DO NOT affect them they are affected by the caster attributes as far as I know
- Exactly, no extended duration
For the Spell Shop:
1)Probably someone messing around, or visual bug dunno really, if you have blessing at lvl16 with max attribute it should be +174
2 & 3)You forgot the duration from the actual skill Spell Shop so Spell Shop at lvl 5 is +35min and with the attribute at max lvl an other +25 min with a total of +65min, plus the inicial duration of the skill so I believe is as follows:
Blessing: 1 hour, 5 min and 45 sec or the 150 hits
Sacrament: 1 hour, 11 min and 40 sec
Aspersion: 1 hour and 7 min
4) None of those skills take in account stats, only the pardoner’s attributes
5) I think what happen is some has their attributes leveled only to give +94 damage. The number you see in the skill tool tip is the one taking in account the attribute level and the base damage.
6) No, the one that has to have the materials is the pardoner you only pay and enjoy the buffs ;D
Thats a quote from a pardoner there. Pardoner: Spell Shop - Attributes affect Spells?
You are right about the duration, though 35+25=60.
Still, the atributes DO count, the caster being the Pardoner, since he/she is the one who casted the buff in the Simony Scroll.
No mate, lets get it rigth.
One thing are scrolls, these are made be Simony skill and doesnt take the atribute in efect.
Other thing is a buff shop, these are the ones that you buy in town, last more but you need to go town every time that it wears off.
Now lets suppose that you buy Blessing in town, and go to grind. When you reach the hit cap it will wear off, doesnt matter the duration. Thats what i meant in the first post.
Hope we got it rigth now, and undestand why a priest in your party will always be better than a scroll or buy buffs.
Mate, I understand that Blessing runs off once you reach the hit.count or the duration, BUT, the atributes on the pardoner which crafted the scroll with simony DO count on the buff people buy in town.
I agree with you in the duration of the buffs though, i was in the wrong
But just see for yourself, when you buy Blessing in town, you’ll hit 170 or 174 in case you bought the lv 16 Blessing, just try it with a character that isnt a Priest and you will see, the atributes are on
If that is true, it is a exploit and should be reported. Is not meant to be like that.
Already saw something fishy about how monster gems and Divine migth affect simony.
The Blessing lv 16 you mentioned earlier is because of the Divine Might
Duration has been raised to 60s in kToS. It is now an OP buff there so the short duration is justified.
@shadgan_85 @alejobrice14 my goddess you are both wrong. Stop talking like you even understand because it will confuse new players. Both of you can’t even differentiate between [simony] and [spell shop]. If I could flag both of you for spreading misinformation I would.
[blessing] can’t be scrolled. Skills sold through the [spell shop] are designed to take into account the caster’s attributes.
And just to make it even clearer:
Spell Shop is the one where you see tons of Pardoners in town and you go buy buffs from them for 1hr+ duration.
Simony is the skill scrolls which are consumable items crafted by the Pardoner that you buy on the market.
I’ve had people in random-made party asking me to spam Sacrament whenever it’s off cooldown - probably because their buffs keep getting overwritten.
And some classes like quarrel shooters will use up their blessing hit counts fast, so I think even if priest buff durations are increased to 1 hour I’ll still be recasting them often.
And where i did say the contrary? If you read some post upside i quoted a Pardoner explaining the difference btw scroll and spell shop.
The discusion here is about the op saying that scrolls take the crafter atributes into account.
This is your very 1st reply to OP. Let’s break down the misinformation.
There is no scroll version to [blessing]
This talks about the [spell shop] version of [blessing] not taking into account attributes which is WRONG.
And this is the part where you confuse the [spell shop] [blessing] with a non-existent [simony] [blessing].
Do I go on?
And last bit. OP has said NOTHING about scrolls. OP is complaining about how pardoner [spell shop]s “invalidate” priests because they provide “better” versions of priest buffs via longer duration buffs.
I will accept that i was wrong about Blessing scroll, didnt knew it was not posible to craft.
real blessing, means real blessing, the one that priest use. That stands rigth because if you get buffed in town and go grind, even if duration is longer, when hit-cap reaches you will be forced to town for rebuff, while isnt a problem whit the real blessing.
That answer the 1st OP question, then the discussion derivated into if scrolls take the atribute of the crafter or not.
Just as a reclaimer, Isnt the same be wrong in something little like a scroll craft, than be wrong recomending for example kabalist in a character that you put effort already for 230+ lvls.
Or recomending a weapon setup worth 6millions+ when it in reallity is worse than something cheaper.
Or even recomending full focus a character into a single skill like stone skin when in reallity is a bad endgame choice that you will regret 300+ hours in the game later.