think like a evil businessman and think as a pleb consumer, make them compromise each other.
editing tax into discount tax
Really, why you give the company ideas like this to milk money from us from stupid things ?
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because its free2play, surely IMC will implement a cash cow method to pay for the servers so we can all play. it will also allow IMC to pay their staff for further update and content of ToS. this is my suggestion of a premium account feature if they choose to have one.
cash shop is already expected in any f2p plus you can access it during iCBT
lodge expansion is already in iCBT
self revive is already in iCBT
premium equipment Shovel is already in iCBT
There are so many better ways to āimplementā cash content, instead of āprivatizingā some stupid content.
Its just like in GW2 when a player gave arenanet the brilliant idea of making custom pvp a cash content. What happenned ? A total fail. A year later its free.
Think about customizable, decorative, non broken ideas.
Wanna see games thatās making tons of money just with customization ? League of Legends and DotA. Both of games make almost U$2Bi/Y.
Cant say more.
āprivate chatā, milk me here, milk me there, IS BULLSHIT ! Games with these stuff are dying. Wake up for the next generation of gaming. Play the game without ā ā ā ā contents. Support the game with aesthetics things that wont make the game more favorable for individual people.
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[quote=ālorde_viana, post:24, topic:37695, full:trueā]Wanna see games thatās making tons of money just with customization ? League of Legends and DotA.
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You cannot compare a MOBA to a MMORPG
Iām starting to feel like you are overly adamant about having a premium service and stuffing it with the silliest nonsense things you can think up. Itās like youāve played too many F2P games with terrible cash shops and payment models and think itās the only way to do things.
Your reasoning basically amounts to: because it will surely be the case; this thing is also already in the game, so we should add this other stuff as well.
You keep bringing up GE as well, like some sort of boogeyman, but this game simply isnāt GE. The gameplay isnāt even remotely alike. The fact that itās one of IMCās other projects shouldnāt factor in at all. Tree of Savior is still in the cradle and has the opportunity to blossom into its own thing.
Iād even help you brainstorm a proper way to do a premium membership without making it pay2win at all, but Iād rather do it tomorrow when Iām not feeling like falling over from lack of sleep.
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GW2
Buy-2-Play
League of Legends and DotA
MOBA
do you have an example of free2play mmorpg?
ok ill wait, iāve been cosntantly editing it anyways since yesterday based on peoples input
but all of them rants on EXP boosters p2w and such. when didnt even mentioned any EXP boosts
WE are Talking about ācash featuresā. So it applies to all games. No matter the genre.
Private stuff for premium is stupid. Mega phones, mindless. Exp/drop boost, so hell stupid.
Make the game well balanced with aesthetics and there you go. A game with cash users aswell as free users.
This isnāt very hard to understand. But you really want the game to be a crap with āfreemiumā content, go ahead, keep sending these very nice ideas to them. They will love it.
so how do you suggest can IMC milk enough money to run international servers
cosmetic and customization only mmorpg f2p give a title which IMC can look up upon.
You donāt really understand business do you ? I wont go further. Its just like talking to a tree - the wind will blow but the tree remains on place.
Really tiny games, just like RO, Runescape(who had only 11 alpha testers), LoL, and many more, started so small, but in less than a few months they could go world wide.
But thank god there are people like you, who buy mindless cash stuff.
They want players like you saying :
Can we get this closed please.
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1 access to VIP pub(a pretty room only premium players can enter and thatās it)
- sure, but its do nothing
2 internal town autopath, (auto path inside towns no need to manually walk conrols)
- this should be free, or non at all
3 premium emoticons with loop animations
- this should be free, sad if you want to do some screenshot or videos but your friend dont have premium
4 juke box feature (custom playlist among all BGMs)
- how is this jukebox work? play a BGM and everybody nearby can listen to it?
5 discounted auction tax
- this is bad, even for a little bit, we need money sinking for good economy, this just destroy it.
to make a friendly newbie game, we need money sinking, remove some amount of money, gone from the server completely, so āveteranā players not overly rich and the inflation is not sky rocket, and i hope they increase the tax rate according to item/equipment tier, like selling high level stuff need to pay more tax.
I rather liked how Firefall did things.
The Market used its own currency (Credits) that had a limit on how much normal currency could be converted into Credits (25k crystite to 1k credits) though they did have a small amount of credits as part of dailies (in the amazon) and part of login (the very last login reward box at 2 hours into the gameā¦ provided you were on time to open each of the preceding boxes so you had to actually play the game) system.
Credits could not be traded, so it was impossible for gold buying services to work.
Credits could however through the market be used to purchase Red Beans (the cash shop currency) from other players wanting to sell their red beans so they can buy something off the market.
This also helped combat inflation a bit
The VIP that Red5 offered?
50% exp boost, 25% crystite boost, 2 extra printer slots (for research and crafting), and a reusable glider pad that gives you a little boost of speed on launch. As well as increasing the number of market slots from 8 to 16.
Perfect for those who wanted to catch up to others that have more time. While said others who have more time could find the loot to sell for lots of credits to buy the red beans and in turn get the VIP themselves.
Or to get the numerous cosmetic items that were being sold.
This game will have a cash shop, and it will have usefull stuff, not useless crap that some users suggest, its the price to pay for a F2P game, either that or charge a monthly fee which im fine with that btwā¦
Maybe we just should start a petition and sign it for PAY-2-PLAY. If I have to, I will pay a 20$ monthly fee but only if the game is worth it. And yes include your cashshop too but only if it just contains some reset scolls or something like that.
And I tell you one thing, if this game goes pay 2 win or even if Iāll get the feeling that I am forced to pay for some stupid items, because I would get a faster ingame progress, iāll definitly send this game right into the casual gamers hell, leave it in an instant and I will probably stop to play any mmo and delete all those **** games in my mind and from my harddisk.
I am ā ā ā ā ā ā ā annoyed because of all this chasshop and premium account ā ā ā ā since years and itās not funny anymore.
Then u better stop getting hypef bc the chances of tos having exp boosts is high
why pay2play when you can just buy2play, one time payment and play forever!
Pay to play will allow a small company to make intelligent decisions on being able to create new content and push out patches. They will be able to hire and sustain more employees because they know within reason how much money they will make(sustain) per month/year.
Look at large title mmos, because of subs they have the resources to push out content, have better security(bots) and simultaneously work on expansions/large patches.
it is better from a business and production stand point to have a healthy stable income. i.e. subscriptions.
It also reduces some unwanted players by having a pay wall and generally a more mature player base(from my experience)
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