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[Poll] Server EU/SEA : good compromise?

General Discussion
#18

1 month gap isn’t the same as 3 months …

It seems that the founder only server isn’t a thing anymore. IMC will open 4 servers like during iCBT, so the new players for OBT won’t be starting in a fresh environment.

If IMC do open an EU server without transfert, low-lvl map will be a cluster of founder and free players, not a good thing.

EU founder players are probably going to pay more than NA founder players, as I expect a flat conversion from $ to € (and I don’t particularly mind), but playing with 100-200 ms more isn’t fair as well.

If founder money help opening an EU server sooner, I’m not sure free-players will be mad to see those founders on their server.

Again, the transfert should be one use only, and why not limited in time.

This is why I talk about a compromise.

@blackmagicstd I can’t restrict NA players to vote, even if I could, I wouldn’t. Someone can troll-vote once, so what… The point is to suggest a compromise with IMC, as many non-NA players ask for non-NA servers asap. Maybe there could have been a better way to express myself in the poll, I haz franch no tolking verry gud anglish :innocent:

#19

Founder only servers never were a thing. They never specified that.

Founder exclusive access time is just that, after that time it would be unfair to them to treat founders like special costumers. It’s asking too much. You paid for that time and you got it, after that you will have to be content with VIP and playing like the rest of the people.

Besides, they haven’t said anything about having EU servers for founders or not, but if you want to assume they will add 4 servers from the start, you can for sure expect them to be in different regions.

Anyway, you are hoping for server transfers only because you fear they wont add EU at the start. That fear is unfounded because they haven’t confirmed anything. So just wait and see…

#20

Obviously, if EU server is added right at the beginning of exclusive access, there is no troubles at all, but I seriously doubt it as it’s supposed to start on March 22th (in a few days).

Founder servers was a thing, search for it. What I meant by only, wasn’t a restriction imposed, but a natural thing.

I assume they will open 4 servers (located in Virginia, NA), because it was the case for the iCBT.

Definetely not, otherwise IMC would have told us so way before, EU server isn’t a recent question.

I don’t fear they won’t add EU at the start, I know they won’t.
I am simply trying to find a compromise (i.e something everyone can agree on, even if there is some losses for each sides) to calm the “uproar” asking for EU for exclusive access.
If IMC can pull this off, good, no need to talk further, but no evidence shows they have the ressources atm to do so.

#21

Like i said they haven’t confirmed or made an announcement on anything you are discussing. All everyone has atm are guesses and assumptions.

#22

I hope they’ll add some EU servers in the future if they are not up and running during early access. I would even pay for a server transfer. Somehow they have to pay additional servers. :wink:

#23

You joined yesterday, my assumption is you lack some info about this game …

Again, if IMC announce an EU server for exclusive access, so GOOD, everything is fine. But what if they don’t ? And it wouldn’t be surprising that IMC simply can’t opened an EU server in a few days, they lack ressources atm.

#24

You are assuming that i was born yesterday? I made an account to comment, doesn’t mean i dont read the forums.

You are quoting them saying that they are still discussing it. All they confirmed is that there will be at least one server in NA. It’s not healthy to focus on “what ifs”…

#25

You are in denial :scream:

“Internal discussion” and “as soon as something is solid enough” mean when they have the ressources and are sure it will be worth it for them. You are making the assumption we will have some news about it before March 22th.
I hope we do, but don’t really expect it.

They didn’t confirmed there will at least one server in NA, they confirmed serverS will be in NA, same as iCBT serverS.

#26

nah, i just dont want to form expectations and then have them made wrong when they finally announce something officially.

#27

My “objective expectation” (read not what I hope for, but wait for) is we will not have an EU server for exclusive access, which wouldn’t be surprising. I really hope to be proven wrong in a few days.

In anticipation, we can suggest a compromise, there is no harm in that.

2 things can happen

  • EU server for exclusive access (end of discussion, every is happy)

  • EU server opens for OBT at the earliest (so seems to be 1 month after founder, can be more than that)

We all expect/hope for the first thing to happen, but in the worst case scenario, what do we do ? At the very least, we can express in advance our desire in such case.
Everything up until now show that the second thing is the most probable one.

#28

They have already proven that they are listening to the community, and alot of people including you are asking for EU servers. That’s all we can do for now.

#29

@Opelganger

So you are using my first argument against me, nice one …

I’m not simply asking for EU server, I’m suggesting a viable compromise, which is far more than “That’s all we can do for now”.

If you have something constructive to say, I will read it, otherwise, have a good evening.

#30

http://www.poll-maker.com/results512059x58d347d1-21#tab-6. I think eu servers will be coming in the future if they are able to interpret the data of their own polls. Just be patient. :wink:

#31

I dont get it, you said this: [quote=“Panplemousse, post:27, topic:150017”]
EU server for exclusive access (end of discussion, every is happy)
[/quote]

and i said that it can happen if enough people ask for it. What better compromise would be acceptable to you?

#32

Because objectively, it won’t happen. IMC didn’t get any money from us yet, and forcing them to open a server is more a childish tantrum than anything else, and definetely not a compromise.

I rather have one month on NA servers then transfer to EU server rather than a rushed EU launch.

@Awwdorable EU server is definetely coming sooner or later. But rather than crying for it or waiting for it, I rather propose a viable idea to IMC in order to make that happen in a reasonable timeframe with ressources to back it up (also it would be a nice advertisement for IMC). As far as we know, transfer between servers isn’t something IMC wants, if not anticipated, it will become an issue once EU server opens.

#33

Okay. If there are no EU servers at EA and no transfers available in future, they will loose a huge junk of their playerbase. At least the players I know, would never play a mmo under this circumstances.

I would appreciate an official statement about upcoming plans for different server locations, but I guess I will end up shoving money into their throats and hoping for the best.

btw this is how f2p mmos work nowadays. Sad but true.

#34

:blush: And now you see why I try to come up with a compromise rather than waiting for an official announcement (in the worst case scenario) :blush:

Once EU server is out (only one is needed I think), if IMC allows founders to transfert, I don’t think we will need this service again.

#35

How HUGE is our EU playerbase anyways?

Bigger then the brazilian? or na?

Except fast attack builds… we will be able to do jus tfine with 100~200 ms ping.

Start a petetion … not only a straw poll.
And try to get every EU player to sign it… even if only with his forum nick.

And cheapest servers are still in ireland …

I would love a frankfurt or france amazon center server … i have 20~40 ping to those. Even without WTFast. But still … such a server needs to have an certain amoutn of users to be rentable.

And tax is applied, then cut from steam, then tax in south korea.
THEN they have the cut which imc gets. Which is subject to other taxes and bill again …

I will sign anything and post anywhere to get an EU server … but that might only happen on actualy OBT or realese…

Why care for server transfer… just make a new char. YOu can still play your other account. Just dont make the same char x times… there’s lots of choices.

#36

Ill be satisfied with just a West Coast server.

NZ here.

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#37

I think nobody has exact numbers, but something like this should make them wonder: http://www.poll-maker.com/results512059x58d347d1-21#tab-6.

Would you like to create a new account on an eu server after spending money and time on your founder account? I’m one of the best cash cows a mmo can get, but I would quit at this point.

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