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Poll Freezes at Favorable Percentage

is it only me or did they actually freezes the poll when it was favorable to them right around 25/65/10 at 2000+ votes?

because i honestly didn’t see any changes after that moment even until now when they have announced the end of the poll i’m kind of confused about this. please clarify it for me.

edit: after 10000+ votes there is actually a change but it’s so marginal to the point of being impossible right now 24/65/11

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it didn’t, only that as the votes increased in number a very larger amount of voting was needed to change the result. like on 3 total votes 1 vote would mean about 33% difference… on 3000 well you’ll need a 1000 for the same amount… get the point?

It actually did switch at times in between 63%-64%-65% on option B

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i mean seriously? from 2 thousand votes to 10 thousand votes there is no real visible changes? only 1~3%?

yes i understand the way percentage works but it still feels like there’s more to it than that. i’m not claiming they are rigging it, it simply felt unnatural.

Even though the polling froze, option B was going strong the entire time the polling was open.

So it doesn’t really matter if the poll stayed open… Option B is just too good.

50$ players get more bang for their buck, and 10$ players get to join in without paying all that much.

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yeah it is even if the votes where 1,000.000 woudln’t change a thing probably since the result kind of very well rapresented the “population division percentage”.

ehm i rly don’t know how to explain that well in english sry ^^

yes i know, it doesn’t matter. all i want is to see the actual changes in the percentage. without any kind of invisible changes.

Apparently forum was full of same-minded people that established steady even votes for 3 options across all time zones.
Also all prior shitposting and false flagging was done by bots.

i really don’t feel like it would be true, but thank you for trying to explain it to me.

that same minded? across hours and thousands of post? doesn’t that seems unrealistic?

lol bot.

You can see by the comments in the poll topic that it represents what the community thinks, at least from that small sample.

It’s also nice to see that from different timezones, different cultures/financial conditions, everyone thought the same. No surprises. Option B gave the best rewards for those who could afford the $50 pack, while giving equal conditions (time wise) for those who wanted a very cheap pack. It pleased almost everyone.

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wow Illuminatis are strong. Take care friend they’re coming for you.
The aliens too, they are scary. Everything is full of strange things. Today I went to the bathroom to wash my hands, I went out and then I wanted to pee, my body is conspirating against me wow. Aliens are scary and they are real

Get real man, option B is by far the best. It’s that simple.

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I’ll try to explain it using a texas hold.em poker analogy… bear with me i don’t know how well i’ll be able to.

In texas hold’em AA is the best starting hand ever and it has, if i remember correctly, about 80% chance of winning the hand you’re going to play.

That doesn’t mean tho the first time you get an AA you’re going to win because in the SHORT THERM, that in this case would be a low amount of votes, there are a lot of odds that will go and influence the result… so even if you have 80% chance of winning it’s perfectly possible that you’re instead going to lose 5 times in a row thus having a 0% victory rate.

This translated in our poll means that, if the devs gave the chance to vote to only, let’s say, 10 people it’s very much possible that option c or A would have won even if option B was clearly the best one.

The point is, in the exact same way AA, even if you lose times in a row will still win 80% of the time after you play them let’s say… 10.000 times, in our poll the “Option B percentage for winning was about the 65% given the benefits it was supposed to give to players”.

That meaning that in the long run, meaning a large number of votes, the percentage will go ALWAYS towards the right one, in this case 65%.

That’s why i’m saying even if you had 1.000.000 votes you’d still get a result near the 65% we got now in the exact same way as in poker after 10.000 times you played with AA you’ll find yourself having 79%-80%-81% winning rate no matter luck or unluck.

I really can’ty ewxplain it better then this… you should study the percentages and such in your own language to get it better.

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how many times do i need to tell you that i understand that concept.

alright well if everyone thinks that there is nothing wrong with that, i guess that’s it then. i’ll put this thread to solved with my statement that you guys might be right. cheers.

Yes u are right i thought i m the only one who notice it. By 6000 votes it was 25, 65, 10
And After 8000 votes it was still the Same 25, 65, 10

Very strange

glad to know that somebody finds it a little fishy even for a little.

The percents were changing. I saw the first option at like 22-24% second at 63-65% and last one at 10-12%. You probably were just checking it when there was so many votes that it wasn’t going to change that much unless there was a lot more in the other direction.

Second option was favorable to everyone despite all the people arguing. It made the time equal for all those that would pay, which works for those that were saying it was too much money in their country or that they couldn’t afford it to be so expensive. It gave you much more for your money’s worth for those that were going to buy it anyways. It is only a month compared to 3 that worked for those people complaining that the time frame was much too large. It covered pretty much all the complaints people had. Either way it works out in favor of everyone.

please read the solution thank you.

edit: i thought it was bugged too when it first got flagged but i dont know anymore lol. tbh i dont care, B won which is great :slight_smile:


this was the comparison shot i made that made me believe it was bugged, but it looks like there was a 1% change in the final resuls so yeah.

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Announce out of nothing the game will be released withing a week, 50 dollars to play on the first month. Out of nothing they change plans…

Now I’m guessing (just like the percentage) 25% will still buy the U$50 and 75% the U$10.
After the pack change, let’s say 20.000 people will buy the access.
The same 3000 will keep the U$50 and the others 17.000 will buy the U$10.

WoW!! IMC just used a simple strategy to earn what? More than twice what they were going to receive. They also get the bonus of making the game more famous and expected generating all of the comments and pools.
I’m not willing to argue with whoever disagree, only a few might get what’s going on. Anyway that is how democracy works, a bunch of people voting for their own benefits.

You reap what you sow.

(Lag in game? Too much people? Too much kids? Well, that’s on you that voted for the this)

Merry Christmas!