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[Poll] For those who are still playing iToS

i glad you did, coz fixing hook64 is bigger deal than getting rank8.
but damage done is done… atleast we can stop it from spreading bigger.

hi5 bro~

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yep, doubt that would happen …the afk thing seems to be a “feature” in the game, as long as they don’t hack, they can’t be punished.

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I would rather facts be unbiased than having doom/naysayers condemning every single thing IMC do or whiteknights sugarcoating everything like it is all rainbows and sunshine.

It is like a chicken and egg issue with iToS, IMC and the player community. iToS doesn’t get the financial support from a publisher, making it dependent on TP shop earnings. Without much funding, there will be lesser/no budget for marketing, making lesser players aware of this game.

This contributes to lesser players playing the game as players leave the game due to various reasons. Potential players get deterred from the game due the the community being negative about it, hence lesser earnings from iToS. With lesser earnings why would IMC put iToS as a higher priority like how it treats kToS or jToS?

This goes in a downward spiral, IMC updating slow and the community being negative. Both sides have to make changes in order to make ToS a great game. Now it is like both sides are “waiting” for the other to bring each other up. Yes a good product will ensure good feedback, but negative feedback will also pull down the product with lesser funding from the company due to lesser players endorsing them.

Not asking we all to sugarcoat everything and pretend everything is ok. It is more to shift our views into a more neutral stance rather than let our anger and frustrations get the better of us. We can be appreciative in what IMC did well for us and be critical and constructive when something is wrong.

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again, i am against the idea
"we should put more money and buy TP so iTOS can get enough funding for progress and attention"

to me, i believe more on the below
"the moment IMC decide to publish their own iTOS, they are running it like a retail. Customer dont care how much constraint/cost/risk involved in Target/Walmart, if your product on the shelves is shitty, consumer has every rights to boycott/talk-sh1t"


why would/should a game title/game-company be relying on it’s customer’s compassion ?

No matter if a service is free or paid, If Gmail/facebook is down for a moment, even its free user gonna ran amok, let alone paid professional-user.

we are not hiring a professional services here, where we pay upfront to receive their services.
they are providing their end-product for sale, and its every logic yell at a faulty product.
its their responsible to provide after-sale-service/maintenance-to-current-system/provide-future-content

iphone7/samsung7 exploded, it affect their sales… immediate action taken to remedy the situation and damage control…
sure there still be fanboys buying those, but you cant police every negative/bashing feedback article out there.


Regarding the recent rise on excessive/not-classy spam , I agree we need forum moderating. This has always been hot request, not sure why this is not in the QnA.

Forum moderating as in, making things in place so everyone can speak their mind and related info is found in their relevant section.
Forum moderating not to silent every negativity and instill fear for authority

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The intent/idea isn’t to ask players to put more money and buy TP. It is to reflect on what we post will ultimately affect and influence new players’ decision on trying the game.

I do agree that as long as a product is on the shelves, the customer is entitled to his or her comments about it, whether it is positive or negative.

This forum is really in need of active forum moderating, more of to stop needless thread revivals like those “X quit” threads and to consolidate various threads that talks about similar topic of interests. The huge negativity the current forum portrays is largely due to a few players who keep opening new threads on the same topic when they are not answered by the forum moderators.

Deleting threads due to silent negativity is always a no, and will reflect really poorly on the company itself.

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That’s rich coming from you…

exactly.

We tell people server is low pop, so lv1 to 200 gonna be hard, this is fact.
So with the other valid-known-bugs-cry-threads…

If this much of information is enough to scare them-newbie off, i think its all for the best, rather than the newbie repeat the cycle making QQ-Thread for the same reason.

But the recent necro on the I-Quit thread, its inappropriate, but a fact is still a fact.
A Quit-thread from April stating the weaknesses of the game, some of it still valid known-issue even after the game is 6months in the market.

I, for one, will be more curious/skeptical, if a buggy game such as TOS but there is 0 negative thread within searches…


i know right?
Rich in nutrient , like a deliciouscroissant your username suggested ~
Croissant Nutrition Facts

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Except scaring potential players off will make it harder for the current players to find their much needed teams for pre-200 as there is lesser new blood injected into the playerbase. We are reaping what we sow. Something do need to change though.

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You’re spamming together too

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Never at the level of Haukin. I can’t manage 50 posts of derailment a day.

I can still remember my earliest replies here. Completely unrelated thread. Haukinyau: HEY YOU HEARD ABOUT HOOK64!!!111 HUR HUR HUR

Writing in a constructive manner once a week isn’t a pass for the ■■■■ he does.

That doesn’t matter since IMC doesn’t care. huehuehue

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Except scaring potential players off will make it harder for the current players to find their much needed teams for pre-200 as there is lesser new blood injected into the playerbase.[/quote]

i guess its about perspective. i rather the game suffer abit for now and those willing to play knowing the current state, they will raise to become new loyal player. I prefer quality over quantity.

Keeping quiet about facts to mislead new player so the temporary raise in playerbase is not the key-solution, u know this very well.

Exactly the befitting scenario for whoever still playing the game, because the classic phrase “i told you so~”

Thats why i quit.

So to make things relevant, yes, you those who still play, can keep on misleading tempting newcomer just for your own convenience.

I do agree , lack of lowbies content is not as obvious if the game has constant 1~2k new player every month.

IMC need to solve “how to bring 2k new player every month” themselves.


so, what, revenge is sweet?

glad you are having as much fun as i do~

its always good to know the other person replying/commenting to you had atleast 7% overall enjoyment

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Pretty much they gave up after one mute. I’m not sure I can blame them. Between tor, proxies, and his level of autism. He’d be back anyway.

just like your weekly maintenance, it’ll break something anyway

wink

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No that’s not logical. I can’t have a thread that’s unrelated to any of the bullshit and not be trolled by something completely unrelated?

That is not an excuse.

I mean really you think any of you are going to listen to Nekorin? You’re still going to keep jumping into threads and derailing them. You’re going to continue to post bait threads. You’re going to continue to ■■■■ on the community cause that’s what you do.

i like how i am becoming a meme and a in-forum event

i knew you were waiting to troll me

awwww, so much love~ blush


i do, hence i replied…

u dont? why? neko are always so cool and refreshing with her reply/perspective/idea

i like writing to her~

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Just calling you on your bullshit.