Please remove swordsman class from Tree of Saviour because
Weak damage in every tier , why even have damage classes?
Since every class can basically tank , don’t need a tank in this game anyways
So called tank = Peltasta or only create guild but all other classes are rubbish
Only melee range class. Even clerics can have decent range damage
High hp did nuts , at least Wizard with 50K hp and base INT can do more damage then them?
Make guild creation available to all other classes. It was funny to watch a 40K HP Swordsman chasing me around while I just swift step them to death. Now its just so pathetic that such a class even exist.
I just wanna make sure all dungeon and party search have relevant classes and not trash classes like swordsman
I wonder where every single class on that tree can tank as i see people complaining about dying fast (see number 1 of this answer also).
That is called RPG, this is not a Devilian where you can basically tank with any class as long as you have good gear.
Sword in Swordsman means that.
Again, look at number 1 in this answer.
Yeah well, can’t beat people who don’t know how to play their own class and get their arses wooped.
You people come to the forums complain about the most stupid stuff without even make some research first.
Btw i got a Pelt, do good damage and AoE, can tank all the mobs i can lure with SB, kill them all, and still have 80% HP, and i only take 30-40 seconds to kill 15+ monsters around me at my own level.
/sarcasm start I wonder why i am so weak… /sarcasm end
I’ve seen stats with con str dex mix but still fall short to magic damage and long range disables. Full draw and a swordsman is just a sitting duck. Swordsman is just week.
Tank doesnt mean you have to stand there and take damage , freeze keep all things in place, archer disables, jumping wizards with gravity pole just to name a few.
Well the role of tank is not define by taking damage standing there , a rogue can cloack and backstab and other for example above.
Even maces is melee range but tonnes of magic utilities to easily disable a swordsman lol . Its just pathetic
Again look at my first paragraph.
Ah I never lose to a swordsman before even their shinobi classes or dragoons. Its too easy to freeze them , gravity pole them , trap them.
Its not stupid , removing swordsman reduces a trash class thats not usefull at all. I wouldn’t want to party with a swordsman since they are just lame.
Without healers you swordsman aren’t even worth a single cent. Research? I’ve duel swordsman 20 levels above me and they till lose. Made a few rage quit and turn a new leaf into more useful class like WIzard , Archer and Cleric.
In short swords are just miserable and should just be remove from the game. Not enough to be worthy for both pve and pvp content.
I am not into PvP so i can’t argue much on that area tbh, i would guess as a Peltasta or as long i have a shield (this last one is just my guess) i can pretty much block archers shooting (not all of them but some yes).
As for magic, can’t do much on that part only have a good amount of element and magic res (i stated both because i am doing some testing on that mechanic, i noticed that with high mdef but low element def ex: Poison, i still take heavy damage from that element even with high mdef).
Now i ask you, can you do that on a massive scale? And every 20 seconds? Not to count that you have to stop your attacks to avoid being hit and killed, while you can just leash your skills when a tank (Peltasta, not Rodolero <- this is no tank) and don’t have to worry much about dying (you may have some monster on you but not the whole lot the tank taunted).
See above.
It still stupid imo and as i stated before, trash is the one who build his char (and this is valid to any class) without researching first, you want to remove a class on a game that is not even balanced, not completed, lack lots of performance optimization just because you saw a couple of people who don’t even know where they are going?
Did 2 dung 90 (when i was around 95) without healer, could use my Lv 5 pots to keep me going and it was a full run.
Well i won’t repeat myself again, i already put up the necessary “insults”(?) on the other quotes.
Just so you know, my main is a Sorcerer.
Well i won’t be discussing with clueless people, this is my last reply to this post anyway.
(just answering your quote there)
Yep, they give me heavy damage, as normally it would, suggestion is, if your first char is a Pelt, try to get good magic/element def to handle some of it, mine don’t have that much because i got some completed collections so at 100 with only 3x CON + beetleback shield i get 11k+ HP, so i can resist them for a good time, but obviously, as any tank that know his job i will go after the magic ones first, that is, if they don’t close in like most of them do, otherwise i won’t resist longer, but that is when i am soloing, in parties or dungeon parties, things go so fast that you barely need to run after them since your group already killed all or at least most of them. At least is how i noticed when i tank in dungeons.
I am not saying the class is perfect, not even the others are, but it does have its utilities in the right hands, as other classes also have.
Yeah why dont you try dueling a Swordsman 20 levels lower than you. Its trash.
The whole design does not fit in anywhere.
Evac boss hunts , nobody ever want anything to do with swordsman. Hence the many many whining threads of being a swordsman.
Just remove the class and half of the complaints is gone! Like magic ~lol
Also large scale pvp? a Rogue/Musketeer can just snipe a swordsman before they yell Die. No guilds so far actually need a swordsman , except exploiting them to provide low cost repair services. Because they are just so easy to predict lol
Full draw , Bewitch , Zhen du and swift step , the swordsman cant even touch you. So pathetic.
Wy? Keeping such a trash class entirely flawed to make yourself feel better? Remove it and we have a fair fight enviroment.
Swordsman are free frags. New players dont play them. Friendly advise!
Instead of childish “i think my class is bad, therefore it should be deleted Q.Q”, like a kid destroying his Xbox because its parents took the controller away since it’s bed time, you should kindly ask for improvements of that class.
Keep in mind though that any class improvement requests may take time or may not be implemented at all, depending on how the developers feel about the suggestions that are made.
While i agree certain aspects of the swordsman class certainly need balancing and imrovements many aspects of the swordsman classes are still decent/nice.
BTW i find it funny that you complain about a sword-based class being melee range only. Isn’t it obvious that swordsmen are melee range classes?
I’ve never heard of any RPG setting where swordsmen were ranged classes by default.
Yeah, it help even tho they look insignificant, when you get all them it makes difference. Get the HP ones(those are the top priority as a tank) and the phys damage too.
