Yea, depending on the item it would have to be sold at the mean price established by the market at the time. This means the item can’t be undersold or oversold.
As they mentioned in their annoucement, once the item has sold enough times they establish a mean-value and you can’t sell it for more or less.
Well it can actually if you read the prices on Temsus for example they typically sell for around 7k but you can price them up to 50k. That is over selling.
Anyone else think that delay with the AH kind of intelligent? You have to wait 2 days and if it was a RMT you could get just ban hammer anyone silly enough to buy silver in that time frame without the damage spreading to the economy.
That’s only if they catch such transactions and hopefully not false positives.
I say everyone should suffer the 30% tax +_+
Of course there’s gonna be RMTs even with trade restriction and all. But by allowing silver trading the RMT situation is gonna be way worse than it is now. I’d rather prevent RMT now in the early stage, rather than finding a solution later when it is already out of hand.
Explain to me how. I would rather them not selling spiked items that could effect market prices and do a private trade.
These are players that are spending real money to buy gold. They’re going to have a token. Gold sellers will have their tokens, as part of their cost of business.
You wouldn’t want to work with such small margins. Gold sellers will be doing business in the 100,000s and millions of silver.
7k to 50k is small potatoes.
Once again since u didn’t seem to understand when i explained the temus example. You can post items at 500% of what they are worth on the ah as it is within the upper limits, so its easy to sell junk for those kinds of numbers.
Neither of us knows what algorithm IMC is using for the market. It could be a combination of flat rate and % for all we know.
They can also tweak it, without our(or the gold sellers) knowledge at any time.
@disseh Says you, but gold buyers are generally lazy people. There is no guarantee that they will have a token.
I don’t get why your coming up with hypothetical defenses when they are obviously failing gold sellers are making a profit, some of them even have transaction history on their sites showing how much they sell.
I am not denying their existence. I don’t think that RMT will ever go away, but every inconvenience or step taken will hopefully reduce the money they make, which in turn will make TOS look less appealing to other games as well as any new game that comes out.
But the trade restrictions are making the game un appealing to players, this can be seen on the forums and in the steam reviews.
Eh, anything people have to pay for in a f2p game will make it unappealing. In the grand scheme of things, having to use the AH is not the end of the world.
In WoW I rarely did open trades, I mostly used the AH. The loot system was need over greed so it fit a bit better, but at least in TOS I know that when I kill a boss I am getting a cube, and from there it is open to chance.
I actually kinda prefer the cube drop to WoW’s model, since with WoW there may have been someone else or multiple people who wanted a drop and you had to roll for it. Here, everyone gets a cube and everyone gets a chance.
Also, you are going to want the token for all the other things it offers. All that needs to happen is a slight price reduction.
I’ve played EVE online for a long time. And often refer to that game in any game-related discussions. That’s a great game, I bet everyone heard of it at some point. And what does make that game so great? Trade and craft. Absolutely free, opened and self-regulated market. Where everything can be sold and everything can be crafted. So, tell me why EVE have no problems with RMT? I mean, of course there is RMT, like in any other game. But, look, in-game economy is the main part of that game. It’s, in fact, the most advanced in-game economy ever. So why RMT is not impacting such an opened ecosystem?
I mean, you are saying, that free trade will kill economy. Somehow. Well, it won’t. See the example above.
P.C.: I hope no one wil take it as advertisement, because it’s a completely different kind of game with completely different target audience.
i almost always deal through open trades and in this game i can’t and it chaps me. im okay with paying for trading i just wish trading wasnt restricted the way it is.
It would help if you actually explained why RMT isn’t impacting EVE.
I’m not such a great game analyst, but there a some key features I can guess.
Combining 1 and 3, you have literally no interest in buying something illegally, and 2 kills every single sprout of such interest, event if it’ll be cheaper. And 4 gives a giant sink of in-game money, which counteracts inflation with incredible effectiveness (it even becomes deflation sometimes). So there is always some demand for everything. That demand depends on players behavior (global wars, confrontation between alliances, pirates activity). And demand controls prices and supply.
Actually, EVE economic is just as complicated as real life one. It’s living, it’s self regulated, it’s completely opened and unbounded.
You can buy character for bucks, ships for bucks, even capital class ships. So there is RMT. But EVE’s economy swallows it. And, actually, most of players prefer legal ways to get ingame currency, so RMT is almost extinct in the scale of entire game.
I can’t tell you how does they made such a powerful in-game economy, but it’s there. And I don’t really understend why can’t we have something like that in a fantasy game.
Thanks, I was always semi-curious about EVE but never bothered to try it. Heard it was a spreadsheet simulator. 
I guess it helps that EVE has been out forever, so the devs are comfortable with flat-out banning players as well as botters. Most MMO devs don’t have the balls to do that, or at worst give you a slap on the wrist.
You don’t understand how RMT works. The price of their silver depends on their supply. People will ALWAYS be buying silver, but their prices will change depending on how easy it is to trade it or how much they have to sell. It will never be lessened. They will ALWAYS make money.
I do understand how RMT works, it is boringly simple. The idea is to make it as inconvenient as possible for both buyers and sellers, so buyers will instead just use tokens in the AH or the gold sellers find easier games to target.