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Please IMC change sub-zero shield and reflect shield

LOL, this one is so butthurt about cryo that I bet he will be te one QQing if these changes never come

The way your throwing insults would imply the opposite.

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Insults? point one please kkk

That is a insult for those unaware of social norms.

:neutral_face:How am I butthurt I said nothing is set in stone so don’t worry cryo people lol.I play Cryo as one my alts so I don’t see why you would think I am hurt by it.And it’s a video game for god sake people who has the time to get butthurt :disappointed_relieved: when real life does that.[quote=“thebloodyaugust, post:43, topic:285527”]
LOL, this one is so butthurt about cryo that I bet he will be te one QQing if these changes never come

The way your throwing insults would imply the opposite.
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If you look my profile you will see I never QQ or rage over subzero shield before and after the nerf…sigh

It is what it is man nothing I can do about it,if you got a problem with the changes then contact IMC but don’t insult me or rage at me because I didn’t ask for those changes nor they I make them.

All I posted in my replies if you check my profile and follow it that the nerfs aka balance were needed.Arguing with me is pointless because is not like I can do anything about it lol.

really? People are soi spoilled nowadays everything is an insult lol

If you look my profile you will see I never QQ or rage over subzero shield before and after the nerf…sigh

But here you are, putting away all the reasoning pointed by the others saying this is a bad nerf and being ironic about rerolling their class like its funny.
But like the other guy said no point talking to the ones like you.

Do you know the definition of insult?

Allow me to assist.

“speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.”

The reason people think a lot of things are insults is because they are lol.

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This guy understand my point about cryo and kino be a CC’s. XD

Esse cara entende o que falei qnt a cryo e kino serem CC’s. XD

Edit: to na acc do marcelo HAHAHAHAHAHAH

Remove Audra from the game and problem solved

Meanwhile, there are classes that can 1-shot in pvp and nobody complains about that nearly as much as about being CCed.
How about nerfing those 1-shotters instead of nerfing CC-classes? Getting 1shot is far more unfiar than a few seconds of CC that can easily be prevented.
I don’t really see sub-zero shield as that powerful in group pvp, considering in group pvp it is extremely easy to counter.

Frozen is a rank 1 status effect, meaning it can be prevented by any anti-debuff skill in the game:
Cleric: cure,
Pardoner : indulgentia
Oracle : Counter Spell, Prophecy,
Plague doc : Bloodletting, Fumigate, Beakmask.

The fact that the duration of these skills is lower than frozen shields duration doesn’t really matter, since the cooldown of most of these anti-CC skills also alot lower. Just get Prophecy once and you will be immune against frozen for 20+ seconds after which tell your oracle to recast it,

Don’t Worry Musketeer and Cannoneer 1 shot gimmick will be next lol and perhaps stealth from scout may be nerf as well.

SzS is too strong, but it’s too strong because of the duration of those freezes and lack of dr in the game. A melee only version might as well remove the skill from the game because it won’t be worth investing ten points into. It’s worthless at a lower level, and cryo doesn’t have a problem kiting melee anyway.

Random question

Is subzero shield worth it if i want to PVE. Most of the QQ seems to be about PVP.

The changes is for PVE and PVP.

I was actually saying that it makes sense because of the “why would I freeze if I was never close to the ice” thing. Nothing relevant to uhh… gameplay? or something lol

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Even when the changes are for both PVE and PVP, is it still worth it to add it for PVE?

No not really lol.

No one actually uses SzS for PVE unless for cool effects. The only scenario that I can think of is if you are trying to run away from a mob. Freezing isn’t an excuse since you have [Ice Pike] for that.

the ice thing is not the problem, the damage it deals is. the moment you realize that cryo 3 shield can kill you faster with those is kinda awkward. like even if doppel has dispeller scoll? so what, he just kills himself faster that way with cyclone since it is guaranteed that cryo 3 will have more hp than dops.