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Please help me finish my build, still at rank 5 and need Miko info or thoughts on my build. Cleric 2 > Bokor 2 > Priest > Miko > PD 2

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

Would any of you change this build? I thought about taking Oracle but 90 seconds cooldown isn’t very appealing in Counter Spell and Prophecy is not a must for a PD2.

Pardoner is cool but is more for a Solo play, mobs won’t survive enough for your full Incineration+Vapour+Effigy + party attacks to need +10 seconds.

Priest 2 is meh, though Priest 1, to me, is what Cleric 3 should look like, lot’s of useful skills, with Swormans R8 you’ll give a lot to your party with Monstrance, Aspersion is +28% def 2 min duration, which is actualy pretty good, and Ressurection, the most important skill, at least to me, any real support needs.

So I think nothing actualy beats a stronger effigy on this build, also +5 seconds on mackangdal duration means a lot if you have pass and a good safety zone.

Hope to hear some thoughts on any exchange of R6, I’m not really interested in Zombies and Damballah but I don’t really know how useful it is at ET/PvP.

#2

@Sixaxis i summon you

/bokorgod

#3

actually this is my build

havent started it yet, but plan to start it once i finish building my fencer or when r8 comes to itos.

i just chose pardoner bcuz

cure srolls - i belive if u have cure scrolls u can use 2 cures at a time (scroll+skill) for good dmg on bosses

indugentia - decent base damage, another cure, aoe

discrening evil - cool animation, hexing+incineraton+vapor combo

and if u wonder why i only have 2 points into safety is bcuz i can use the attribute to increase my block count by 20 (more than level 10 safety) and can max cure for awesome dmg

#4

oh yeah 1 more thing, if you ever change your mind about going c3 bokor, i reccomend putting more zombify point, bcuz i belive level 10 effigy falls off end game (not sure about 15, but 15 looks good from videos)
so u can atleast have zombies

#5

@moises_andre12 here is mine. =)

Are you making a PVP oriented bokor? Think you put way too many points into Mackangdal.
Depending on what reason you want your character to excel in, this looks like a PVP bokor build that will be very difficult to solo.

I’m gonna add some points which @Sixaxis have stated before.

For Cleric, you should get at least 1 on Depro Zone. Fade IMO is very situational and removes threat upon cast, but you will get aggro again when you attack even if fade is on or not.

For Bokor, too high mackangdal, leaving it at 1 will do unless you want to PVP, which I still feel level 1 is enough. Get zombify at least to 3 and 1 on Bwa Kayi, the knockdown of Bwa is pretty handy. Even as someone who does not use zombies, in dungeons I sometimes use Bwa + zombies.

For Priest, I’m not expert at this.

For PD, I think you’re making a mistake skipping healing factor, it’s a really good healing skill and trust me level 10 heal is still not enough sometimes.
Beak mask level is also too high, if you want to avoid debuffs while PVE, then bloodletting alone at level 3 is just as good. Don’t think there are a lot of level 3 debuffs right now in game. Get lvl 1 beak mask to protect yourself when bloodlet is in CD.
Plague vapors is a good aoe skill, should get that maxed. and use alongside incineration. Pardoner’s discern evil works well with this.

Overall, check this revision:


PS I’m not an expert at PD and priest yet, so far only got to rank 5.

#6

oh wow just relzed u didntget healig facyor, never skip healing fsactor. als, take points away from hexing and put them in zombify adbwa kaiman. ba permanently knocksdow enemies, so its super usefuk, ony put 1 point in bwa toug, and 1 point in mackang is good even for pvp.

#7

Did you type this while you were half asleep hahaha!

Also just to add, if you don’t like playing zombies, it’s better to keep samedieve on odd numbered levels as only half the effect applies on you. So e.g. a level 7 and 8 samedi have the same move spd effect.

Or you could get level 10 samedi and use a gem to get it to 11. =)

#8

haha sorry im tyibg on smthing other thn a cmputer right now so everytig is typing wrong

#9

Thanks guys, I’ll be taking Healing Factor to level 6 as a PD 2 for 100% uptime.

Also I understand Bwa is handy but I don’t even cast zombies as they eat healing tiles, any of those damage zombies will lose to Hexing+effigy, it gets pretty OP when allied to Incineration + Plague Vapours and Pandemic, which got very good at C2.

As of now I’ll be waiting for Miko release at Priest level 14, I’m almost sure I’ll be trading Oracle for it if it’s a Rank 6.

Samedi: I only use it with Divine Might since it has a good duration, no need for it to be at level 5 really.

Hexing: With only hexing I can currently hex 5~6 medium targets. with Krausas Mace I can finish a pack of 20~40k HP mobs at level 140 in 10~15 seconds, attributes still at ~40% for effigy and mostly CON build.

Yes, I am doing PvP, there is NO reason for a PvE Cleric to take PD, status ailments is not the biggest problems at PvE or ET, it only is so at PvP.

I want to make mostly a Dark Cleric build, able to be good at both PvP and good enough to do ET.

#10

im still wonderign why sixaxis hasent replied yet,oh well, i main paladin anyway lol

#11

1 question though why do you want priest?

actually cleric2>bokor3>?>pd2 is one of the best cleric dps builds for r8, it can pvp, dps, and support, healing factor is so good in pve and pvp, and incineration+plague vapors is the best cleric dps rotation at the moment if im mistaken. im making a cleric2>bokor3>pardoner>PD2 atm, with pardoner i can use cure twice for great dmg on bosses,im only cleric2 right now though, my build is a mx thouhg, i have zombies and hexiggy, i expect for damballa to be good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEQ_VbUAItE dont worry about damballa for pvp though

#12

@BlueByu

Priest 1 is a very solid rank, Resurrection is VERY useful at both ET and PvP. +28% def, +170 atk per tick and +30% dex are also very useful for a support class in any game aspect.

If I liked Zombies I’d take Bokor 3. I just can’t like them, though I love Hexiggy, I’m 100% sure I’m not taking Bokor 3 for only more 5 effigy levels.

About Pardoner: You will only craft level 1 Cure scrolls probably since they get pretty expensive, I also don’t think it’s worth it since you can always spam effigy for damage, Cure gets pretty bad at high levels to be honest. The only point on Pardoner is Discerning Evil, but I think it’s only worth it for low Ranks of PD, I’m taking PD to C3 so level 15 incineration with 2 debuffs (Hexing +1) will have ~100% uptime already, by that time Pardoner will feel like a bad choice.

I’m now considering taking Miko as my R6, not really fond of Oracle anymore but still thinking about it.

#13

with pardoner c1 you can craft level 5 cures, and cure stays great all game if u put int, it double scales from int so it NEVER falls off. and ur not going c3 bokor. oh, ive never seen a comparision of c3 bokor to c2 before but sixaxis would knoow, but hes not responding

#14

@BlueByu

level 5 cure must cost ~3,5k silver each if I’m not wrong. I wouldn’t pay that to be honest, in large amounts of monsters the damage it gives becomes minimal when compared to effigy, Incineration or Plague Vapours. It’s singletarget damage is great and it’s base damage doesn’t fall off, that’s true.

Obviously, if you want to compete for WB or something it’s totaly worth it, but I could just buy it from someone else I think.

I’ll make some calculations on Effigy damage comparing C2 to C3 but I don’t really know much about calculations on Zombie damage.

#15

for the level 5 cure im only gonna be using it for bosses, 2 cures could very well take the boss down to 50% hp, if its dark (which like 50% of bosses are) and zombies scale on map level (they are gonna be buffed soon, health will be tripled, dasmage will be tripled, crit rate tripled, ect)

#16

oh and what s WB? ygftyfuyv

#17

World Boss, is the only point where you would really want to boost your damage with Cure Scrolls probably, Quest bosses are easy, any other boss you want can be killed with Effigy + Incineration + Plague Vapours. If you want to WB just go Fletcher 3.

#18

@BlueByu

Effigy correct math.

From what I understand, Effigy damage should be: ((((Base Damage + Magical Attack) * 1,3 hexing multiplier) * 2,23~3,11 skill multiplier) * 1~2 attribute) on every third hit, or (1,3~2,6 * (base damage + matk)) every 1st and 2nd if not using Krausas Mace.

Effigy 10 = 2,23~3,11
Base Damage = 473

Total BDamage + Matq = 2173

Hit - Attribute - Damage
1st - 0 - 2825
3rd - 0 - 6300~8786
1st - 50 - 4238
3rd - 50 - 9451~13181
1st - 100 - 5650
3rd - 100 - 12600~17572

Effigy 152 = 2,58~3,56
Base Damage = 633

Total Bdamage + Matq = 2333

Hit - Attribute - Damage
1st - 0 - 3033
3rd - 0 - 7825~10798
1st - 50 - 4550
3rd - 50 - 11739~16199
1st - 100 - 6066
3rd - 100 - 15650~21595

Damage / Effigy:

Bokor C2:

3 hits = [5650 + 5650 + (12600+17572)/2] /3 = 8796 damage/hit (A)

Bokor C3:

3 hits = [6066 + 6066 + (15650+21595)/2] /3 = 10251 damage/hit (B)

By B/A = we get that Bokor C3 is 16,541% stronger than Bokor C3 considering Effigy only (being Krausas mace not usable over level 220)

Both your Incineration and Plague Vapours are still mostly stronger than Effigy so your DPS from dropping C3 Bokor would probably only drop ~5% overall against numerous targets.

Pardoner gets old at Rank 8, if not, surely it does at Rank 9 where incineration has 30 secs uptime for only 5 seconds cooldown after it’s end with NO debuffs. Vapours has 2 overheat so you use it at a 2:1 ratio with Incineration probably. It’s not that Pardoner is really bad, it’s just not a must IF you are going into higher Circles of PD, where debuffs get long enough by leveling them.

#19

Following your reasoning, might as well get divine might to level 2 and healing factor down to level 5. Use it together with DM and Samedi and get 100% uptime.

Fade is useless in PVP, last I read enemies can still see your faded silhouette.
Also, max of 5 players in PVP, don’t know why you get pandemic at level 5 then. I find mobs more than 13 very situational too. When it gets too much, they either de-aggro or if you plan to use hexigy, the max you can hit is 6-7? The others with hexing debuff will not get effigy. Happened to me once while I was doing a ferret quest. Waiting on someone to confirm if incin and plague works with pandemic. (It should, by logic.)

Yes, there is. That’s why PD is so popular. There is one video someone posted where a PD R8 with Pardoner kept Incin and Plague Vapours up and solo-ed Fedi missions with that.

#20

@Wadeva

Sorry, I missed my point there:

  • This build is actualy trying to do both ET and PvP.

  • I actualy like your DM idea, I already use it together with Samedi and Heal so I’m missing 2 more skills for the 5 count, thanks.

  • I had heard Fade makes you immune to Raise or at least other things. I haven’t tested it yet but if it’s really useless I’ll take it off the build (leave it at 1) and take points from SZ to get Cure to 10 probably. If you could tell me what Fade actualy prevents (Heard about Grounded spells or something) it would be cool.

  • Pandemic 5 is for ET usage only. Might leave it lower but I think it’s a good skill at PD C2.

  • Sorry, what I meant by PvE was mostly at ET. Even if you say about Healing Factor, stacking Invincility with Meltsis, some Diev statues or even Ress and Revive are more wanted than PD. Cleric 2 > Krivis 3 > Druid 2 > Taoist might be pretty good for Sterea Troph + Meltsis for example. Also very good as a boss killer. What I meant is, PD’s utility skill set is more PvP oriented, where CC and status immunity is the most important things.

Thanks for the tips