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Player buying items through RMT

Well only because IMC has not the rights to ban u …
Its not a legit behavior which u can expect to be tolerated by the playerbase .
There was never respect for the ones who don’t play but want to buy their progression. And no one will look aside. Just because we don’t know every single “villian” it doesn’t mean we like their doing .
And btw the goldsellers and bots for them its just profit … they don’t play …
they don’t care about the game . It can be replaced anytime .
The goldbuyer are the ones who are toxic because they supposed to like their game and community but still harm it.

I smell salt in the air…

:smile_cat:

It’s kinda funny to see someone like you talking about “respect”.

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Yea, I should be banned as well for reporting you and trying to make the game better for the other players who abide by the rules. Sure, that makes a lot of sense. I destroyed your reputation? You never had a good reputation; if you think you did, you probably need to go see a psychiatrist to have yourself checked. This thread is not about other people who violate the rules by cursing other players; stop derailing my topic. If you want to report people for their nasty behavior in game, then go make your own topic instead of complaining here.

"As you play the game longer, the higher the chance you violate the game itself. " Really now, wherever did you get that? As far as I know, ever since the game started, you were already buying silvers even back when you were in Orsha. You even posted a site where you bought your silvers. I didn’t post any screenshots of that because I’m reporting you for RMT here in Telsiai and not in Orsha.

Anyway, you say in your other posts that you love the game, and that it is your favorite online game. But, if that were true, why are you not abiding by the rules of the game. Why are you condoning gold sellers? In fact, why are you supporting them and ruining the game’s economy by buying gold from them? Clearly, in your opinion, you love the game. But, I don’t really understand what you mean by it. It’s like you say you love a person but you stab them in the back. Psh.

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That pinpoint salt to the wound
I like it :sunglasses:

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just advice, in the future, if you plan to buy something with money, don’t do it opnely in the social media platform,

the moment you did that transaction on Facebook, and when every person around the world could see it, you would expect trouble,

now don’t get me wrong, i am not in any way supporting RMT, but i kinda know how you feel now.

i know you are not the only one doing this, maybe there are a thousand other people which are doing it right now in TOS, ( hell, those Bot and RMT spammer still exist till today and never got banned, and they are selling it IN GAME! ), you at least buy it outside of the game.

you are just uncluky to be reported by someone who happens to noticed your post and are not happy about it.

so yeah, now you know the power of Social Media. and if you are still going to do it in the future, i suggest you do it behind the scene of Social Media so no one will give a bat’s eye.

PS: just accept it that you actually got played by the OP the moment you admitted.

@STAFF_John @STAFF_Max @STAFF_Ines any updates on banning this r tard?

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[quote=“jeremysantillan196, post:104, topic:260165, full:true”]
He should be banned as well. He acts like he doesn’t violate any rules. I saw many people who also violate the rules telling bad words each other like f@goot, m0therf*cker etc in mercenary mission waiting area. They violate the rules. Do you think they didn’t violate the rules? [/quote]
THEN REPORT THEM! Seriously, is that so hard to understand?
You got caught breaking the rules and got reported for that and you might get punished for that. On the other hand, if you see other people violating game rules then you are also encouraged to report them. If you want those others wo break the rules punished, report them! Don’t just cry on the forums about others doing bad stuff, nothing gets accomplished by just complaining on the forums. Don’t just say “QQ but others do it too and they don’t get punished”. Maybe nobody reported them yet? Then be the first one to report them! If you think they break the rules then instead of complaining start actually doing something by reporting them to the support and let the support handle them.

If you see others breaking the rules, don’t wait for others to report them. Take the initiative, be the first to report them and do the report yourself.

Silver buyers/RMTers are the reason gold sellers exist. By buying silver/items for real money you participated in showing silver sellers/RMTers that people like you exist and that they can make profit off you. If you want silver sellers/RMTers to go away stop buying silver/stop RMTing. Seriously, It’s supply and demand : as long as there is demand (aka people wanting to RMT) there will be supply (silver sellers/item sellers). If people stopped RMTing then the sellers would go away since there would be no profit to make. Is that so hard to understand?

Both people selling silver/items aswell people who buy silver/items for real money are breaking the rules. Thus, if caught, both kinds of people are punished.
Just because you are the buyer it does not free you from any responsibility nor punishment, since it’s the buyers who make the existence of the sellers possible.

[quote]Yea! The person who created this thread destroyed my reputation in game.
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There are too many people in the game who have bad behavior also in shout and you all know it. Don’t deny it. Do you think they didn’t violate the rules? The most important thing in this game is “RESPECT”[/quote]
Well, you didn’t show any respect for legit players by breaking the rules by illegal RMTing and then bragging about how “l33t” and “omg OP” your (illegally gotten) gear is and calling others lazy and scared for not duelling you.
If you played poker with someone who constantly brags about how good he is in this game and makes fun about you how bad you are in poker, but then you caught him cheating, would you still have respect for him?

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ban :hammer: incoming… PEE PEE NOISE :smile_cat:

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Only around 50,000 play through Steam. according to their charts. let’s not exaggerate the popularity of ToS.

Is this guy banned already? Buying things through RMT and yet so cocky and showoff at the same time. I’m not a Philipino myself but I feel that this guy just showed how childish and immature one can be. Feels so ashamed to be Philipino aren’t you?

I don’t care whether anyone gets banned or not. This is not for me to decide. Each side has their arguments and the fact of the matter is, from a legal perspective, all digital content remains the sole rights of IMC… however it will always be argued that the seller isn’t selling the item so much as they are either selling their time invested or their effort toward making a couple mouse clicks.

Not that I support, condone, or even tolerate such activities.

The reason I am bothering to reply, though, is that if anything we need someone from the staff army to at least close and remove the thread before any more defamation of character occurs. They have what they need in-thread, and via logs, to make their decision.

@STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_John @STAFF_Max. Not calling everyone, just those I feel that may assist in closing the thread and acting accordingly as they see fit.

Imagine the face on this guy when he saw this post.

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/4383338.jpg

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Lmao that guy reacts like the little kids i teach to.
“Everyone else was doing it, why me ? it’s unfair !”
Thx for the good laughs

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IMO, OP is just envy that WarRock has better items than him. I dont see anything wrong with what WarRock has done and in fact, I see it helping the economy.

First, if not for him, who would buy those over priced items?
Second, who would feed the chinese farmers who are farming virtual currency instead of farming rice?
Third, silvers aren’t being generated out of thin air, bots are farming those 24/7 without a break.

Its not fair to ban WarRock for using real money to gain some shinies, if they are going to ban WarRock, then they should also ban all players who bought TP, because they also used money to gain silvers.

Well, that’s just your opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s right though. :slight_smile:

I guess you don’t really know much about game economy. I shall argue your three points.

“First, if not for him, who would buy those over priced items?”
In the first place, if people didn’t buy silver from gold sellers those items wouldn’t be overpriced.

“Second, who would feed the chinese farmers who are farming virtual currency instead of farming rice?”
I don’t really get the connection with this statement on my report.

“Third, silvers aren’t being generated out of thin air, bots are farming those 24/7 without a break.”
Which is exactly the problem, bots are being used to generate silver. And so if you are buying silver from these gold sellers who get their supply of silver through botting, you are actually ruining the economy because you are making items worth higher than they should be.

I suggest you read up on the basic of economics and law of supply and demand; it’s a really easy concept.

“Its not fair to ban WarRock for using real money to gain some shinies, if they are going to ban WarRock, then they should also ban all players who bought TP, because they also used money to gain silvers.”
The problem with this statement is its a faulty analogy. How is buying TP and selling tokens to get silvers the same as RMT? Do you even understand what RMT means? You should try to read the Terms of Service to understand more about what is legitimate and not.

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You do realize the game has a Terms of Agreement thing right? or are you one of those whiteknights for people that do RMT? kek.

Lol, you are a joke.

  1. This is a terribly retarded argument. Read up on economics and understand a little about supply / demand before asking stupid questions like “Who would buy those over priced items?”

  2. Who would feed the chinese farmers? Holy crap. This is like saying “Let us continue to buy Rhino Horns from poachers because it gives them a job” or “People should buy drugs because drug dealers can earn some money for a living”. Real.

  3. Let’s compare 2 different scenarios:
    a) Someone hacks the game and generates “out of thin air” 100 billion silver. This amount eventually circulates the market because the hacker buys item using the silver that is generated “out of thin air”
    b) Someone creates 1000 bot accounts that farms silver from monsters. Let’s not look at whether this action has some consequences (Which it has, such as disrupting players who are in the region questing / grinding). Eventually, the botter with his 1000 bots accumulates 100 billion silver. Botter can either sell it or use it himself. In both cases, the silver is still going to circulate the market and cause potential ruin to the economy.
    How the heck is your third point valid at all? What in heaven’s name are you talking about?

You, sir, are retarded.

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Oh wait. After looking at his account:
“Joined 1 hour ago”
Okay. Well played RMTer.
I guess I got baited.

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