this is something people are going to need to learn to do for this game. ToS hearkens back to the old school era, and the way of thought that North American games have long abandoned: that if you want something, you should be willing to work for it.
if you want an easy-breezy everything-handed-on-a-silver-platter kind of game, there’s plenty of MMO’s like that these days.
ToS is not, and should not be that game.
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if you want an easy-breezy everything-handed-on-a-silver-platter kind of game, there’s plenty of MMO’s like that these days.
ToS is not, and should not be that game.
[/quote]Time to clean up the general discussion threads 
“its kind of hard to mess up a cleric build”
Try to do a Bokor build without ■■■■ up Skills OR STATS
No, serious, grind one and dont ■■■■ up ANYTHING
heh, lookit me, actually using the [ ] as they were intended…
but seriously, just blindly building -anything- in this game, and you’re probably going to regret something that you chose, eventually.
omg soo retarded… The dead zone shouldn’t exist… its a fail progress…
the deadzone only exists if you get too stuck into a specific play style, and burn all your card stockpiles instead of saving some for later if/when needed.
it’s one thing to have no cards in the later 200’s, when you’re way beyond any quests anyway…
but it’s just asking to hit a wall if you don’t have a stockpile of cards in the middle of your leveling.
dude, its simple, progression is broken on tos, cards are give to burn, u just need to keep then cause the game progression its bad implemented, like many things here.
Right now what I understand about this dungeon is that it’s literally pointless to run it, no good loot and the EXP is beaten by just straight up grinding… which is different from every other dungeon.
I’m a little worried about this wall. I try to get 10 levels off a dungeon if I can(Sadly auto queue forced me to card early for the 130 dungeon, so I carded three levels) and I go around doing all quests I can in that level range… +100% map completion but I’m dead worried about this dead zone.
I never used cards since lv90 because I don’t have time to play all day and barely have time for dungeons.
The lv145 dungeons taking 50min-1 hour to run didn’t help either (and 50% of my runs never finish)
That being said, don’t forget that if you kill enough of a certain monster, you get free exp cards from the Wings NPC, that should help you if you run out of exp cards.
That is true, you’d spend hours hunting the monsters though…I’ve ran into “Clever Bots” as I’m dubbing them now that I had to follow for a bit then set an anvil to catch in the maps I’m currently in.
You also only get 1 card per 150-300 of a monster type in a map, so it’s debatable if it’s really worth it.
There’s an excel sheet someone put up that you can sort by the number of monsters.
Just get the ones under 50.
Free cards after all
That or grinding in Dina Bee Farm with botters and real players.
Pick yer poison.