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Petition: Nerf Missile Hole. A single Rank should NOT make entire classes from Rank 1 to 8 useless

General Discussion
#345

Counter spell and missile hole are quite similar if you consider them as immunities, however, they do differ in something quite interesting.

Magues are still a threat aslong as they’re out there, I mean its very likely that they put a pole of agony, some fireballs and whatnot around the counterspell. if the enemy is to step outside of the counterspell they’re dead.

The mague can walk away from the counter spell.

Missile hole on the other hand:
Negates all missile attacks and has mobility. so: leaves any missile attacker unable to deal with it since: you cannot run away and wait it out or drag them out of missile hole.

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#346

Didn’t think Gohei couldn’t dispel it. As far as I know, counterspell appears to be a special circle like foretell as neither can be dispelled by Lancer or Cannoneer, so I would think a Thauma can’t reverse it

#347

Yup, but the buff you get from stepping on Counterspell is only applied by entering the magic circle, Gohei dispels that buff so you need to go out and reenter for Counterspell to apply again. Word of caution: buff limit also can push Counterspell out.

The same is true if you get Ressurrected inside a Counterspell, the buff won’t be applied.

Same goes for Raise, if you get Raised and it is dispelled by Fumigate or Indulgentia, as dumb as it sounds, the safest place to not get Raised again is inside the circle itself (use common sense here, not safe if there’s damage spells inside it), so you don’t get the Lv.3 debuff again which applies on entering it (initial cast+circle creation counts as entering).

#348

To fix missile hole imc must do the same they did to pg buffs in the arena.
Shorten it’s duration and add more delay on the skill. They can let the skill as it is for now and nerf the hit count. It’s simple.

About wugushi. Delay in antidote.
Habbit, when i say that that coursing breaks mh, I’m saying that you can hold the opponent as long as you want and can or break it using auto attacks, or hold the opponent until the buff expires.

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#349

Heh, or kill the enemy? you know it’s not just that CC it’s a damage skill…

Why can’t fletcher just get a silence arrow or a dispell arrow ;s, if you don’t want it on fletcher, give it to sapper he’s crafty.

#350

I agree. The only thing is: that works when you manage to get it to 1v1. It works as any CC, if team is coordinated/good composition someone will simply take you out.

It isn’t a full viable solution because the time it takes to break hit count or for buff to run out during a group fight. I totally agree it works but only viable if MH is adjusted in duration, hit count and/or cooldown (IMO).

#351

Adjusting hit count is the way to go. Battles should be fast paced and not be subject to say the immunity of priest3oracle3cleric2

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#352

but for sage is okay punishing duration or effect to people that already made their builds

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#353

That’s one of the reasons I want the adjustment to be applied now, so people can decide on their builds as Sage C2 or C3 or other paths. Better adjust it on R8 than on R9-10.

#354

Yes send them to oblvion!

Personally I never said anything about duration. I’d like to see work arounds like dispels or like in a TCG have a skill that nullifies a skill of choice for an overheat or its CD. But to find the perfect balance community must weight in instead of blinding defending.

#355

Once there is R9, you’ll get a rank reset anyways

#356

no thx, or reduce the damage. A DoT damage should not take more than 80% of a player’s hp

same to oracle1

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#357

MH only affect missile dmg.
The chance of you falling in a team with 5 archers is below of 1%

MH is fine for now

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#358

Overall team buffs nullify the effect of poisons. However, I do think drinking too much antidote should result in a penalty. I don’t mind about antidotes not having a cd, but the mere consumption for ‘safety’ against a poison threat should have its consequences (and not necessarily silver given its cost)

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#359

Correcting you: The chance of you failing in a team with 5 archers is higher than 70% because enemy will have better composition than you.

#360

It is not 0.

Man, accept the facts. as long as there’s the possibility it must be brought up.

There’s the chance of a zombie apocalipse, it’s laughable? yes… yet you still have some fools with zombie survival kits.

Same reason why we have some silly laws in many country states.

#361

I’m getting out of here
I do not want to be infected with your illness
bb

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#362

Bai bae. forgot to hue on the way out.

#363

i want that you get what the swordscry got with the sb0s: MH exclusive to you

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#364

Oh darling don’t let the black spots ruin your sweety. C’mon Hue lourder.

Cows are female, females are so sweet.