I give up just rim blow coz the main point of going C3 is like for that higher Swashbuckling and if I leave that at 10 I might as well pick something else. I been thinking about picking up cataphract C1 before going into full squire just for mobility but you don’t get 1h spear mastery with cat its like meh.
Alternatively, like I said if you don’t plan on using High Guard often in your rotation then you can take away some points in Umbo Blow, as your C3 skills will outdamage it by far outside of HG stance.
How does the high guard attribute work? like it just give a multipler to the base damage of the skill?
So if I max butterfly, langort, 1 in umbo thrust I have liek 15 points, should i like just max umbo blow or get like 9 in umbo blow and 6 in rim blow. Which would be more damage? Or like 6 umbo blow, 6 rim blow, and 4 umbo thrust?
High Guard attribute works by multiplying the base damage of the skill by its modifier. The penalty still takes place, but you will be doing more damage with your C1 skills. If you want more damage, just max Umbo Blow and ignore Rim Blow. The latter is only useful if you have a dedicated Cryomancer on hand to get bonus freeze damage, otherwise Umbo Blow gets bonus damage and hit after a successful block, making it consistently stronger than Rim Blow.
Peltasta C3 is good… good for what exactly? (I’m kind of confused)
[Umbo Thrust] only has a chance to give the enemy a 15second armor debuff, I fail to see how this is so amazing. Also I don’t understand how [Langort] and [Butterfly] has any more synergy with armor removal than any other attack skill would.
I also don’t see the big deal in going C3 Peltasta just for Lv15 [Swash Buckling] the extra pulled mobs is probably cool but it’s not that hard to gather mobs up either and the extra provocation is most likely overkill.
c2 swordie is better then the pelt/highlander alternatives for certain builds
+Concentration lvl 10 and restrain are pretty amazing skills
Yeah i think the OP overhyped Peltasta c3 a bit and i got caught up in the hype a little. When i sat down and thought about it rationally, it ain’t that good
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@GoldenCross
Yes, its true… I was overexcited with peltasta a bit… I took corsair at rank 5 and now hitting 160 lvl…
Well, peltasta’s own damage is ok, but it is faaaar away from good. While barbarians can jump around with 6k dmg, you maximum have 3x1.5k from butterfly. Corsair is pretty useless, i wish i took rodelero or even squire instead. The main problems with peltasta 3 are
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nearly no slash damage
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nearly no pierce damage
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you blow off your cds and sit there with autoattacks for 10-12 seconds.
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magic mobs shred you apart
Hoping to fix damage problems via taking doppel and dragoon. Probably i messed up with my build ( i got ~50 spirit and all rest in con), but i still enjoy it . Missions and dungeon runs really feels great, when you can gather full room of mobs and still be alive. Even without healer you can make it.
@lawligator
Are you sure about the “chance”? I see the debuff every time i hit with the skill. Of couse, you can miss it or it can be blocked, but if you hit - you deliver debuff 100%.
Synegry was about multihitting… But then i saw pyromancers with arde dagger under blessing from priest doing much more dmg and gave up…
With a 3:1 Con:Spr build it’s a tank build, i’d recommend to go fencer instead to salvage the build, although the lack of dex is a problem though. Getting doppel on your build without a stat reset isn’t going to fix your damage issue
Thanks, @GoldenCross, I thought about fencer first, but it heavily rely on evasion and dex. It’s a bit late to start investing in dex now, i think…
Big CON not only increase your block (i dont think i got enough block yet, bosses and even regular mobs can hit through my guard©), but it also gives you nice hp regen and hp pool ( easier for healer to catch you up and you can endure magic mobs for decent time). From what i seen, even full buffed hp tank with ~90k hp dies in mere seconds in earth tower, if ones makes a mistake…
I expect doppel to give me cyclone, for better solo aoe grind and deeds of valor, for single target dps, vs quest bosses, for example. Also cyclone will cover needs in slash dmg.
Later dragoon will give pierce damage. Also, i dont think pve dps dragoon will throw spear to provide 10% bonus to attack and defence from gae bulg ( they will need this spear to do damage). So it’s an open role to tank/support.
I leveled up unbo blow to 15 asap and High Guard because of the combo…without those two it would be EXTREME to make any solo quests on TANKER FULL CON BUUILD. I hit 2k+ on umbo blow with high guard ON so i can kill mobs using the skill two times.
Right now this is my build…i have some points without spenting because I don’t know Langort. But i’m thking about adding umbo trhust because of the comments about it and because of the armor debuffs that i didn’'t noticed before.
I still have 10 unalocked points.
Umbo blow can be used with Five Hammer weapon if you want to hit/knockback more targets as tank.
Usually you dont want to knockback targets as a tank =)) If you want to ( vs magic mobs, for example) there is lvl 3 bash with attribute and 3 overheat.