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Pelt > Barb2 > Squire3 /Templar?

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Hello i’m playing this game since the release, me and alot of friends are playing together everyday as a group.

as for now I am a Sword > Pelt > Barb2. Level 100

So far in the group I played the role of the TANK. yes. I took barbarian becouse peltasta next circles look really bad. and barbarian have universal skills, along with stuns to help ally in need.

(Reasons for not picking Hoplite over barbarian is I really dislike spears.)

I also manage to bring in dmg aswell as tanking… mostly aggro is enough for tanking as far as I can see.

but now I reached a point where I think of going SQUIRE c2 to support all my friends.
and eventually reach into TEMPLAR.

Do you think SQUIRE can work for my idea of Hybrid Aggo/CC-LowDps/Support ?

And if squire is not really a thing what could help me improve into group play.

I do not have any experience past level 100. all I know that a full tank CON is mostly useless and painfull to play.

This is the build I had in mind :

Do you think it’s viable ? (silly question everything is. but really appreciate if go more into details).

i’m not going to start over so i’m also open for alternative ways.
I really need opinions, tweaks, and help with this.

#2

Please help, I really feel unsure about this.

#3

No expert. But most people say skip squire, unless you want to go all the way to Squire C3. Because other squires who are C3 will make your C2 irrelevant.

If you wanna tank maybe try roddelero ? or cata/doppelsinger has good dmg

#4

I don’t think pelt > barb2 > roddelero is a good idea… and… why squire c3 i don’t get it… just better money from the weapon buff ? I want to play the character not to afk to gain money but to use it for me and friends… and it’s gonna be my main character… i don’t know what to do…

I saw this path on the guides up here in the forum ranked as Tier 2 build… but i’m unsure if it’s even that usefull to be a main squire…

#5

It is like this. Your friends can take your weapon buff. Or get a even better weapon buff from a afk Squire C3 in town at a small cost. What do you think is better?

#6

you are right in someway I guess… hmm… well then I really don’t know what to do…

#7

Check out Cata/Doppel/Fencer. I think fencer is underrated.

#8

Fencer Templar… ? don’t look like it would be any dps or tank if i do that…

#9

I suggest going cata if it’s gonna be your main but squire would be fine if you plan on making more characters. You could be that squire in town ask throwing out dem fat buffs when you sleeping. Cata is nice has decent kill potential can farm late game and tank most things aswell. Pretty good all around class sword1>pelt1>hop1>cata3>Templar. In the end you have a golden heart,don’t let them take that from you.

#10

You probbly didn’t read my post…

#11

There’s really not a lot you can do by taking Templar you really limit your build. If Templar is a must if go c3 barb maybe corsair c1 and finish with Templar. It would be better if you dropped Templar and went barb c3 Dopple c2. Sorry man just throwing out suggestions.

#12

it’s ok man, didn’t mean any offense sorry yea, you are right templar does limit me… i might think of doing something else untill they increase the level limit …

i’m stuck with barb and have no time or will to make another class.
so pretty much want to do something from here…
but the thing is… I really like to do the tanking… and not full dps… i’ll let my friends dps and I want tank/utility/semi dps.

however today me and my group went to the level 100 missions, and i managed to block all of bosses attacks and hold the aggro, + deal dmg. we killed 5 bosses and time limit kicked us out… pretty fun experience and now i’m 100% sure I want to do the TANK role all the time.

don’t care about pvp much, and guild is needed but we can drop it and make alt for guild… not sure what to do…

#13

Well you didn’t choose anything wrong thus far. You have pelt c1 which is all you really need to tank. I suggest taking barb to c3 and finishing with fencer c2. Fencer works really well for tanks and still adds some nice damage and great utility going the tanking route. Dragoons a no since you don’t want spears and dopple is really the only other option but leans towards dps. Check out the fencer abilities as it would fit your play style best imo.

#14

Well, I really dislike the rapiers, I don’t mind to use weapon swap to change from 2handed to sword shield.

i though about other classes, either continue on peltasta for the armor break, or dopple ? not really sure… i am going to do squire on alt character and make this one more focused on bein my main character i guess…

#15

With what you want to do, I would end at this point with either rode2->templar or barb3->dopple1->templar. Rodelero and Barbarian are both getting buffs and rode 2 allows you to avoid magic damage. The other build is more dps but the experts here say anything can tank, so it’s up to you. I wouldn’t feel bad about your build or worry over restarting or anything, pick what feels best, you already have a strong barb core in your build.

#16

true I agree with what you say, although I don’t get how rodelero will avoid magic and how it make sense… and if you can link me to that buffs info will be great.

and exactly what you said about the expert here say anything with pelt 1 can tank is what made me pick pelt > barb2 instead of pelt c3 becouse they said it’s bad.
so now I need to confirm. also what do you think about x2 corsair, to help somewhat in group ? but I dont like dual wield … since day one I never played alone…

another thing came to my mind was ‘sword>barb3>pelt3’
so that I will have ultimate defense, with great offense, and armor break. but give up on the high tier choices. and will have to wait for cap increase for templar.

honestly ‘what feel best’ I don’t feel so good becouse I feel like my DPS is in the sky, while i still tank like a real tank… not a bad thing but i’m confused. it feel akward and don’t know if will last on for end game content… or pvp

I play every MMO and RPG as a TANK.

#17

I play tanks too, and I actually tried to roll a Pelt3 for my first character. The problem is many of its skills are just not good. High guard is awful and hurts way more than it helps. Its damage skills at circle 3 are quite nice, I particularly liked Butterfly but they have awkward hitboxes and don’t make up for what you’re missing out on by just leaving pelt at c1 and taking something else. Higher swashbuckling is nice, and probably the main reason to take more pelt, but unnecessary according to everyone around here.

I ended up deleting that character. I’m now going Pelt1->Hop1->Cata3->Templar and enjoying it very much right now (at cata1). I think Barb3->Pelt3 may not be so good due to missing out on the really good rank6/7 classes and only getting higher pelt in exchange. If you really want to roll with the sword and shield tank theme, don’t like spears/rapiers and don’t want to reroll, I think the barb2->rode2->templar(if you still wanted templar) is probably a good idea. Rode2’s magic resistance comes from slithering, btw. They are immune to magic while using it. You’ll be able to stun and blind targets, deal extra strike damage on rode and barb skills from slithering’s effect, and I’ve read war cry generates some aggro so it can function like a second swashbuckling, but I have no idea if that’s true. Sounds like a good tank kit with some damage to me.

#18

I look bit more into Rodelero, but didn’t like it much…

this is really hard on me since I went barb2… I guess hoplite2 would be more tanky offensive choice. right now i’m tanky, but more offensive…

options I had in mind (leaving templar aside for moment).
Sword>Pelt3>Barb3 = Changing stance from Offense to Defense ?
Sword>Pelt1>Barb2>hoplite2> = This ?
Sword>Pelt1>Barb3>Dopl2 = Ops but i’m a tank for my group ?
Sword>Pelt1>Barb2> ?

i’m very close to just remake character…
but my character now is level 110… with 100% completion on all maps up to 110… all quests done… hours of grinding to save exp cards…
lv3 - 320, lv4 - 310, lv5 - 320, lv6 - 60…
and I will leave my party alone and i’m their tank…

seem like taking barb2 have limited me to go fencer(spam dmg) or doppel(burst dmg)… which I really don’t like…

and all this “tank is not viable, you should do dmg instead” making me sad… and i’m just overthinking too much on this…

rerolling a new character would look like… pelt1 >hoplite2>
since it has that finestra that help me tanking ? hate to be forced into spears :confused:

#19

The right way to look at it isn’t tank being unviable, it’s that you became a tank when you chose swordsman. You don’t become one by picking pelt 3. There’s a reason base swordsman can level up the “provoke” attribute and gets 3x hp.

You’re playing with friends so your life isn’t going to be too difficult either way, if you want to do the pelt3/barb3 build that much then in my opinion just do so. Take barb3 first however so you have an easier time leveling.