Hi, I’m currently level 103 Pelasta circle 3.
what would be your suggestion for the next class?
Corsair or Squire or the other classes?
I’ve heard Squire isnt good for a Main toon.
and I’m quite worried if i go Corsair since i dont have atk supporting skills
like barb, high, hop.
EDIT: The reason why i went Pelasta 3 is for ofcourse tanking.
your replies will be very much appreciated.
My thoughts:
Peltasta 3 -> Squire 1 -> Fencer 2
Fencer 2 is so you can contribute some damage. Fencer requires the least support from previous classes to do decent damage with.
With Peltasta 3, I expect that you’ll be a member of a lot of grind parties. Having Squire 1 means that none of your grind party members have to go back to town to repair their gear, you can do it for them. So the grind never has to end.
There isn’t any good filler for you at rank 5 to take that synergizes with Fencer, so might as will get some utility.
Peltasta 3 -> Rodelero 3
Rodelero focuses on Strike damage, so it synergizes with Peltasta strike damage skills skills. It’ll give you a magic damage blocking cd as well.
how about using Corsair?
Out of pvp purpose or dédicated party build (buffing the party with the flag as tank, why not), it’s not a good idea to mix c3 class with shield skills and low attack with à dual wield damage dealer class
err, planning actually for Fencer build.
I’m just getting a Corsair C1 not C2 for the hexen.
Squires “offensive” abilities make it a little bit hard to level.
All of the advice given here was sound; I’d just like to add in a few things.
A major thing you want to consider when coming up with a build is what weapon you will be using. The main issue here is that corsair focuses on dual wielding primarily. That said, you definitely could use them.
It sounds like you want to be full tank if you’re going the route that you are. If you are, corsair isn’t exactly meant to be a tanking class. Fencer is a solid choice, as are Rodelero and Squire. The attack bonus you get from Jolly Roger is unreliable and frequently insignificant.
The main issue with squire on a main toon is that you only have one combat ability: arrest. Arrest is very good, but it is still mostly a utility class for out of combat perks. You have probably been tanking for a lot of parties at this point now, so you should have a good idea how tanking works. It is definitely nice to do SOME damage, but it is not your role in parties. Having 1 circle of squire is definitely an option for a tanking character, far more so than a damaging one.
Some good options are:
Sword > Pels 3 > Rode > Fencer 2
Sword > Pels 3 > Squire > Fencer 2
Sword > Pels 3> Squire 3
The reasons behind these choices are fairly self explanatory as it seems you already have a good idea what all of the classes does.
I’d go for the first build @Vanic suggested. However, if OP doesn’t find the aforementioned builds suited to his taste, he can always go for … -> Hoplite c1 -> Cataphract c1 -> Whatever C7 he finds attractive.
This way, you can use both Finestra and High Guard for even higher block rate, benefit from mounting companions, have slightly better mobility, and all the while contributing slightly more dps.
As for C7, you can do the following (suggested):
Templar: If you’re keen on doing guild stuffs or make your own guild.
Rodelero: Great CCs (No targe smash, however) for PvP, especially for just one circle
Hoplite C2: 100% uptime on Finestra and higher base dmg for other dps moves
Dragoon: Tons of damage
Or other choices for C7, too, that aren’t too detrimental to your build:
Cataphract C2: more AoE dmg and mobility. Still, Hoplite C2 would still be a better choice.
Swordsmen C2: kind of pointless compared to all the other better choices, but it’s available.
Squire: Arrest can’t be used while mounted, so it’s more like a remote self-repair class.
Avoid the following classes because of cataphract:
Fencer, Dopplesoldner, Shinobi, and Barbarian.
Corsair C2 should work.
Peltasta 3 -> Corsair C2 -> Squire would make you the ultimate grind party specialist, with 15/15 Swashbuckling, Jolly Roger for extra silver, and Squire for repairs.
You’d spend nearly 100% of your time auto attacking with Dual Weapon Assault though.
This could be a fairly big problem. That is virtually no damage endgame, and very small AoE. Plus Double Weapon Assault means he won’t be equipping a shield, which is not wise for a tank. He’d be doing less damage output than a Fencer with a shield, and would be a less effective tank.
You know you can swap weapons in this game right, and you don’t need to wear a shield 100% of the time for 100% of the content?
Peltasta 3 gets you into end game by itself. It doesn’t matter what classes you choose afterwards. That is up to personal preference.
Full con, Peltasta 3 -> Squire 2 -> Templar/Squire 3 is a common end game full tank build. Swashbuckling 15/15 is so good no one will care what your last 3 circles are.
Edit: I miss interpreted your post. Addressing the actual point. his damage will be so low with Peltasta 3 and a high CON stat build that it won’t matter what classes he picks, compared to the rest of his party.
Yes, I am well aware you can swap weapons. There is no need to be condescending. I am merely pointing out the massive flaws in what you suggested so that a new player is not lead astray. I even tried to be polite about it.
What exactly is he going to be using Double Weapon Assault for anyways? Damage? It’s not exactly a powerhouse skill that’s going to lead him clearing his way through dungeons as a tank. It has virtually no AoE potential. It’s definitely not going to give him burst damage to pop between guarding and avoiding magic attacks.
He’s clearly going as a tank. Those 200 damage auto-attacks aren’t going to do anything compared to skill damage. He needs to focus on maximize his potential while tanking, and this will not help.
Sorry, I just see so many people saying “oh you can’t do this build the classes use different weapons”, forgetting that swapping weapon sets is easy, and it only applies to Hoplite builds due to Finestra being spear only.
Anyways. dungeons aren’t the entirety of the content of the game. 280 isn’t going to be the max level forever.
I’m suggesting Peltasta 3 -> Corsair 2 as a build that specializes on grind parties with Jolly Roger and Swashbuckling 15/15. We’re going to be grinding out a fair amount of levels for 280 to 500/600.
His tank damage is going to be trivial with a full con build, no matter what. Fencer skills are mostly multihit with low flat damage, and will do terrible damage without decent strength investment.
What Fencer does have going for it is that it doesn’t rely on previous circles to fill any holes in its kit.
There are a few reasons to go Fencer over Corsair.
Evasion buffs, which may not be amazing due to the prevalence of magic mobs, are quite handy against physical mobs. He already has an evasion buff with Peltasta, compounding it with some Fencer evasion buffs will make him fairly hard to hit for physical attacks, which means holding guard less, which is always a good thing.
A zero cooldown skill, which though it may not be very strong, is going to greatly outdamage his auto-attacks, even with Double Weapon Assault in most cases.
The ability to use his highest damaging skills with a shield. You literally can’t even use Hexen Dropper with a shield. Yes, he won’t be tanking ALL of the time, I’m sure, but he’s definitely going to want to tank the vast majority of it. He could weapon swap to a sword and dagger and back to a shield, but he could literally do the same with a Fencer if need be as well, and gain the +15% damage boost they get. Hexen Dropper would still slightly outdamage Sept Etoiles, but since they both have a ~28 second cooldown, you’re going to need other things to fill in the gap there. This is where Fencer will come ahead in terms of DPS.
With that said. I can see that due to the fact i got pelasta 3. I don’t have atk skills/atk buffs from barb, hop, and highlander which makes a corsair2 weird and awkward. Which makes me decide to go CorsairC1 for bleed and Jolly roger.
1.) But i’m still wondering with regards to Squire if its worth getting it? I mean wont it be hard for me to level with squire?
2.) Are the squire Wepmaint/repair that worth it?
And
Current plan.
Sword1-Pelasta3-Squire1-Fencer2
Or
Sword1-Pelasta3-Corsair1-Fencer2
And yes i’m a tank.
Edit: just for a followup, I’m a 2 str-1 dex-1con build. Since Pelasta3 alone makes you a good tank.
Bumpin for good justiceeeeee
Yes Squire is a pain to level, just like Peltasta is. You will want to level in groups. Once you hit like 130 you pretty much want to level in groups anyways though.
Weapon Maintenance and Repair are both solid skills, especially if you want to make some cash.
Corsair 1 is going to give you Jolly Roger, which is really nice in grind parties for the extra silver, but that’s really its main use. As far as the bleeding goes, That’s getting applied from Keel Hauling, which can only be on one target at a time, every 25 seconds. That’s not going to come up useful very often either. The first circle of Corsair is mostly just focused on some PvP benefits. Circle 2 is where you get the Dual Wielding burst damage. Circle 3 is just bad currently until they get some MAJOR buffs.
As far as the stat build that sounds fine. That will leave you with around 35k HP in most situations, depending on gear and buffs.
Thanks for replying but, Even as a squire c1?
Would that make me an effecient silver maker?
Wait, if im a squire can i buff my own weapon and repair my stuff? Sorry i really dont know about the utility class.
If you want to go squire you might want to get at least C2, since there will be many competing squires out there in the market that will have better buffs/repairs than Squire C1. It’s still rare to see C3 squires since they are hard to level at that point.
And with Squire C2 you can use Base Camp and Refreshment table, though they can’t be used in dungeons/missions atm, which is bummer. That is possible to change in the future, however.
Hello! im also peltasta c3 and i also have problems picking classes, ive heard however that having squire c1 is pretty much mandatory for earth tower since you cant go out and repair and who wants to buy repair tools from cash shop?
so the options i see is pelt c3 - c1 squire - c2 fencer or pelt c3 -> rodelero c2 - > squire c1 or (shoot me in the head) pelt c3 -> squire c3
Here are some suggestions, skills may vary and you can definitely mix and match any of the rank 5~7 (Except for Cataphract, it’s highly suggested to go hoplite with Cata):
The one you’re specifically asking for may be this:
Why Corsair? Jolly Roger. That’s all there is to it, heh.
Here’s my current main’s build: