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Pardoner Kills the Uniqueness of Krivis, Paladin and Oracle

Are you on drugs?

lol

Pardoners shouldn’t be able to make spell scrolls for skills that define classes. Hell Pardoner should be removed like Centurion lol.

I think that instead of making weaker versions or anything it should be simply reworked into something else.

Like still making scrolls but for kind of buffs/utility that only Pardoner has instead of just taking skills from others.

The definition of Pardoner is according to the free dictionary:

A medieval ecclesiastic or layman authorized to raise money for religious works by granting papal indulgences to contributors.

So maybe instead of making scrolls of the classes, make new skills that could be made into these scrolls, those would be the “indulgences” granted to contributors (players), since atm they do have an ability called Indulgentia but it’s a Pardoner ability to remove status ailments.

Or also making a new ability and forget about Simony, which would be like a combination of Oblation and Spell Shop, so instead of selling scrolls, people would contribute with donations and in return you would give your indulgentia to the contributor which would be the buffs that you could give, which would be new and only Pardoner buffs, such as higher dmg against dark types to “purify their sins” and stuff like that.

That way it could be like something unique for Pardoners, you donate to them and in exchange you get their blessing through indulgentias.

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People don’t use the donation box for a reason. Its just not even worth it now and it won’t be worth it for the Pardoner that way either.

The way the donation box works is that players get money for the item a little less than what the NPC would pay and Pardoners can only sell those items to NPC to make a profit that’s not even worth mentioning. People like to use the market for a reason. I think Oblation needs to be changed entirely. Any kind of donate x item won’t be profitable unless it’s a very specific item and at that point just make it silver. I’d rather see this removed and replaced with another combat skill.

I like the idea of Spell Shop still but maybe they could make the spells unique and instead of using priest items you’d just buy licenses from the Pardoner Master. Such as healing HP to full, healing SP to full but only able to sell those two in town so it doesn’t interfere with potions.

People like getting buffs to level faster from the Pardoner maybe they can do stuff like increase matk, increase exp gained by 5% (or another small percent to not interfere with the cash shop item), immunity to money/gem penalty for the duration of buff, add a holy property atk similar to what arde dagger can do, increase the drop rate of rare items by x%, increase the encounter rate of rare mobs by x% (silver, gold, and blue), and so on.

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I don’t know if a complete rework is necessary but even reducing the duration and effectiveness (or level) of scrolls would be helpful in redeeming krivis/paladin/oracle.

For information
All skill is for C1… but the paladin barrier is C3
Why kill Ă  C3 class IMC !!!

pardoner should create weaker skill. having access to our skill is good enough. having it last longer is terrible for us and it having it use by anyone is even worst.

I agree that Pardoner shouldn’t be able to scroll C3 skills, it makes no sense that just a scroll can make a class pretty obsolete.

I accept that Pardoner should not be able to create a C3 skill scroll or IMC just add another unique skill to Pally instead such as Devotion (from RO) that Pally could absorb damage from party members so that will make Pally be more tanker as it is defensive class

From what I gather, Pally’s problems are more general, Barrier isn’t really relevant to it unless you know you’re going to ET or you want it for Pardoner anyway. If Paladin was going to be buffed, it’d be elsewhere. But it also seems his DPS + support total abilities aren’t bad with Monk 1 Double Fist (considerig Conviction applies to it and it’s a great filler inbetween Smite cooldowns)…

Also Oracle does have important skills that can’t be scrolled, most importantly Counter Skill, so it’s not like that class is dead either…

RIP people going Priest 3 and Krivis 1 for Daino though. A lot of people’d still go for Krivis 1 anyway because they’re on a budget, but if you have the money or your own Pardoner…