[OP] Subzero Shield - Wizard that Become Paladin ( RO )

[AlterZero]

conclusion: swordsman in current state are really meh

[batcat]

no, you need to read, you said that cryo is op because dopple cannot beat a cryo, but really what class can dopple beat. Lets take a look, archers- QS kite? Fletchers bleed and run? Wugushi posion and run? Scout/Musket invis -> 1 shot?. Clerics, Saftey zone, Priests stone skin, Druids mind control, not to mention just out sustaining them. So in conclusion, what can dopples beat? Squishy classes with no CC. so er… some glass random glass cannon builds?

[hoangsea91]

can win ? it’s RNG when you hit cryo if you got freeze, you lose if you not you win. But at lv 10 it’s 60% freezing chance.
in battle arena you cannot use dispeller btw and it’s a prema buff

it sould got nerf hard: both freezing chance duration reduce, cooldown need extend and reflect dmg reduction since it can reflect all types of attacks

[batcat]

This. Don’t hate on cryomancers, go hate on swordsmen lol

[NasiBubur]

i mention doppel coz in video was doppel

the thing i comparison is Archer, Warrior class not specific class like doppel

archer can still hit from range to avoid dark theugre
But warrior ? like you saw at video 1, with only subzero shield you can kill warrior that has huge level different from you without doing anything just cast subzero and being hit.Imagine if the cyro has same level and rank, and attack the warrior with high rank skill ??

With shinobi invi + Corsair hook you can defend / fight against Cleric class
With pelasta Guard you can defend again Musket

all in 1v1 duel, on PvP room Stone skin get nerf, druids mind control make you treat as ally

@hoangsea91
I was mention 1v1, in PvP Cyro 3 too OP
like i said before

In mass PvP / GvG, imagine something like this :
Cyro 3 using subzero shield and see there are enemy magic circles around also see there are ally healing circle nearby
The cyro purposely going to enemy magic circles and when hp get low back to healing circle.

The enemy who’s put the magic circle suddenly die, without knowing what the ■■■■ hitting or killed him.

[fhonghwong]

I would like to see buff remover from later class instead. I feel support class do need a strong deterent against offensive class.

I would like to see 5 archers vs 5 subzero shield first though. First to 10 win. Pretty damn sure wiz cause those con stack, but not really sure. Subzero lose to cleric i believe.

[batcat]

er mind control does not make them your ally… zzzzzzz You obviously do not have much knowledge about the classes, the reason people go kriv-> druid is to lay down ground aoe, mind control them and walk them onto the aoe.

That being said there’s no point to point out classes that are OP in 1v1 without party buffs or the use of consumables o_O because in Arena that would never happen, and thats the only thing that matters, arenas. You cant expect a game to balance every class on a 1v1 basis, that’s just stupid.

Also you keep saying 1v1 but mentioning nerfs that are specific to arenas??? What??

[elysium]

can you fade out of gravity pole? curious

[NasiBubur]

Coz we are talking about PvP
Thats include : 1v1, Arena, GvG, Also Future Content Cross Server War

Did you read my comment ?
i said in 1v1 Cyro 3 still can be defeated, the problem is Arena, GvG / mass PvP. It’s can reflect ground magic.

The enemy who’s put the magic circle suddenly die, without knowing what the ■■■■ hitting or killed him.

Example : a Cleric ( Krivis - Bokor - Druid )
After spam zaibas & carnivory on Ground, the Cleric try to Effigy 1 archer, but in other side a cyro 3 with subzero shield purposely going to the zaibas / carnivory and the cleric die.
The cleric will think there’s bug the when he Effigy enemy but the one is dead was himself. He never know what hit him and will think someone using cheat.

The nerf u can find Here
Telepath on duel and arena is different.
Take a note it’s from kTOS,
if you can’t find there you can search this forum.

[Sayurichan]

First of all, this game is obviously not intended to be balanced for 1vs1 duelling.
If it had to be balanced out for any 1vs1 combination then i guess nobody should do any skills at all and only autoattack, to balance it out vs “i can barely do any dmg” builds like cleric1 > priest2 > dievdirby1 > pardoner2 > oracle1, eh?

I’m pretty sure there are ways around subzero shield.
In group pvp you can probably count on a Plague Doc, Oracle or others who can protect you against lv1 CC effects to take care of it.

Then you can also probably count on your healers to heal you while getting hit by reflect damage.

In addition to that : what stats do you have? I read SPR is supposed to give resistance against status effects, like Freeze, but i’m not sure how much protection it exactly gives. Can some pure SPR character player test if they also freeze with the same high rate as shown in the video?

That being said : there are also other pvp builds that are stronger who can 1-shot you, kill you while you’re helpless or can’t be hit by certain classes, so it’s not like Cryo is the only one.

[batcat]

nope x.x gravity pole OPxD

[batcat]

You can’t expect a class to be balanced in 1v1, Arena (3v3,5v5), GvG and Future Content Cross Server war, that’s my point.

[MatheusUlisses]

Any idea how really counter this?

[Innovation]

Cryo is the most OP and unbalance class…this class need re-work on everyskill it have

[wolfdoggie]

Ice is supposed to be the strongest element in the universe.