Tree of Savior Forum

Only guild wars will save this game!

Music and Design are not the foundations… game mechanics are the foundations… music and grapchis are adornments.

ToS has great adornments and totally screwed up fondation.

The game is not really… “staying alive” at this point in time… not even three weeks passed and well… want to know how many players left?

The first days the peak number of players connected to ToS was about 32-37k people.

Now it’s about 22k people.

And we still have time before the headstart stop.

their foundations like i said are compelling, their square built in gameplay makes me happy about it actually, this is their foundation of game design, i feel its great, and its actually way easier to balance since squares control power.

Also Dota player here.
But not playing TOS at the momet because of Dark Souls. At least there is a thrill and heartbeats involved.
PVE in TOS is boring and horrible for me it is also the PVP waiting ahead.
And it seems like PVE will not get fixed. The main problems are clear and to be honest if I was responsible for it I would have that fixed in a day as it is just numbers.
Secondary problems like no drops in a hack and slay style game and dungeons with no loot just being an HP bloat boring grind are another case I could understand needing more time to fix.

Oh man now you’ve done it… calling ToS a “hack and Slash” kind of game… every single fanboy will be extremly offended by this even if… well… it kind of really is a Hack and Slash game…

forget about drop rate, forget about spawn rate, forget about anything pve related in here but gear stats, this is not our problem, what this thread is all about is making gvg not even more appealing, just straight up balanced till the point people will have to give their hearts out for it, we have two weeks of a brand new game and people still are fighting like madman in 15 year old games to make their time worthwhile, and i refrain WORTHWHILE we have too much shi t going on into our lives to worry about already, we just want some fine gameplay, make it happen.

I will agree talking about PvP in this game BEFORE everything else gets fixed only on 1 condition.

That condition beeing that PvP gets changed in a “Blade and Soul” style… meaning that every player entering PvP gets scaled and their stats gets equilized.

If this happens then PvP become a central issues because it’ll be possible to partecipate in it even without reaching high lvls… if it doesn’t… well to me this tread is just utterly useless at this point in time ^^

I think PVE in this game is way beyond fixing, it’s just fundementaly bad and doesn’t sets it apart from other MMOs at all.

roll another character, and maybe not rush so hard?
nobody said they had to crash through everything immediately.

they aren’t going to add ANY content right now, till they’re satisfied with the servers.

and then, they’ve got a couple hundred levels of PvE already planned as well.
who knows where your PvP lays in the long term plans.

The pve content wont satiefie anyone in longterm, i agree, a proper GvG will do the trick for this game.

It doesn’t have to really be different.
The concept of TOS is more like an hack and slash mmorpg. All one needs is more monsters. More grind less quests. It is fun to see ones own build work out with monsters exploding left and right to see what rngesus holds for you.

All that has to be done is to bloat up the maps with monsters and instant spawn and remove anything but the actual main quests. Delmore in Orsha is almost really good. The main quest is perfect and if these maps had instant respawn and some more monster the whole area would be perfect.

Then you fight your way up. The progress should be noticeable. You advance regularly and work on your build and get used to the class through fighting. Then you have fun and the moment you are done you are ready to PVP.