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One thing to save ToS

Remove neutrality of the towers, that’s right remove the neutral system and see how everyone will comeback after that.

Bugs? bots? low fps? afk bee farmers? bullshit, the game is dying because theres nothing to do, the battle league and GVG are just kabba and diev simulators the game was alive because people love to kill people, to burn towers, to destroy their bases, people love pvp and this game had a really good idea of open world pvp like dark souls and those bloody popular games they are popular for their pvp systems not for their pve system.

why RO was so popular back then? because one thing, WOE that’s right not for their jobs not for their pve RO was popular for the WOE, ToS have something more great than WOE and was removed, im talking about the open PVP, Guild VS Guild , Your army vs an enemy army who want to destroy your precious tower, something really good thats was removed just to appeal casual players.

brave Templars? a class for the leader to fight agains another enemies the general of the army the person who is going to move their soldiers to the victory, now they are more like gardeners , no more crusades now all the brave templars are just pathetic gardeners in their sad towers it’s a dead class now who only farm plants for alchemist or create sad dead guilds.

Scouts c3? not anymore circle c3 it’s just useless now, back then was a spy class to track enemy towers or sell information about the locations of enemy guild towers or even hat collectors not it’s just another dead circle.

a lot of people leave after the neutral system, the thing is Battle league and guild league are fun but this game really lost something really good and orignal, now it’s a just a simple dead game theres nothing to do theres something to fight it’s just a simple boring now, the game is really good the ideas are really nice but if you remove things instead of making more fun the game, then you are killing your own game with these stupid things it’s a good game, good music but seriously don’t remove that good action of open world pvp really good idea and really good for the game.

Hope you can read this my good friend @hkkim and really add things instead of removing things.

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I agree. After nuetrality and war limit was introduced it killed the guild wars and things went downhill. It was the most fun feature in TOS. I don’t think anyone will come back though even with neutrality removed.

TBL is cleric/kabba league that got old after 2 weeks

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As much as I love PVP and hate that worst possible change with making gear count in TBL…
Don’t forget that the PVE conent, in my opinion, is fun with friends. BUT if they only changed things that monsters in dungeons and missions drop their loot table maybe even with an increased rate especially in Uphill and also Saalus with EXP that would give a huge boost to the value of playing those things and also reduces the impact of bots.
BUT IMC devs are probably botting on their own so who cares.

Neutrality came at a time when there was no point to GvG other than ganking the ever-loving crap out of people, whether or not they could fight back. But you’re right in that it heavily limited what could be done GvG wise, and I actually miss that aspect.

If they actually implement it with a system that allowed neutrality with harsh backfiring since the whole point and dedication in making a guild is to fight and prosper and much less to grow Dilgele for your resident alchemist, Neutrality could be okay in comparison to fighting what you believe.

Hell, they could just get rid of neutrality and make it so if you have less than a 20% winning rate your crops won’t get ransacked or something. A way to safety net those who don’t want to fight, but won’t protect those who actually do want to fight. The Pacifist’s Threshold.

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i don’t like the idea of fighting anyone that u want, cus some ppl want to make a guild just to play with friends.

but i agree that they should make a “woe like” guild war, WITHOUT THE FCKING TP REWARD!! and baning exploiters too

just make the winners have a “castle” just like old RO lol, and they can do once a week a special dungeon or something, that drops rare stuff.

they already know the “perfect” formula, don’t need to change that

hahahaha, but TOS is not RO, so they wont include RO feature into TOS

hahahahaha

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lmfao i still got faith in the game tho

The oft-repeated white knight signature rebuttal

huehuehuehue

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meanwhile… 1-10 fps in GVG :expressionless:
oh… wait… if you’re lucky to survive… hello hook64
huehuehue…

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Did someone say save tos?
IMC won’t even let us save Laima, just make us go pick flowers (how many times are we clicking button over an object?) for a bunch of NPC in every map and a revelation leading me to the next revelation, but revealing NOTHING.

We need a new class.
Lumberjack. Takes down trees and swings them at enemies with mighty arms of huehuehue.

The templar class is pretty hilarious though. Never even seen one actually around :confused: Guess they are stuck gardening all day.

And in RO, Paladin is not a pathetic class. Didn’t even matter if your gears were subpar, you had skills to keep the team alive.

The only thing that can even save TOS now is if IMC issues a public apology and swears to listen to its playerbase, starting with server side issues. basically communication with us and them.

Fedimian EU / Miner village, channel 1 36 bot / channel 2 34 bot, really WTF who can start this game ? No way to do quest with low lvl toon.

i think listening to the player is where the main problem is happening.

i dont want IMC to just listen to us,

i want them to acknowledge the issue, come out with a plan , then tell us what their planning for down the road

make player grow together with the game, dont just throw costume at our face at call it 7% overall improvement!

(im laughing at the over used 7% pun thingy… hahahaha)

Yes. that is what i meant, and if there are any delays along the way, atleast address it

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it proceeds? :confused: kinyau87

I dont think removing neutrality would make players come back. They changed it because of players complaining.

If anything they should make benefits for being non neutral or disadvantages for being neutral.

Before they do anything they should just make pvp more balanced. This would make it fun. Then maybe we can have cool pvp stuff.

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eh? what?

@hydevk care to elaborate more

erm… my templar is sw3 cata3… so im only useful every 30sec…
Rush FTW!

btw, not into gardening coz i can never harvest my dilgele…
the 6hours harvest time is idiotic…
the watering time every 2hours is idiotic as well otherwise it would withered.

templar2 is bob-the-builder