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One fresh toxic story, before reset

General Discussion
#14

[quote=“BigBadBoy, post:3, topic:224353, full:true”]Party Find it IS ALWAYS FULL RUN, unless agreed on cases where there are no healer or no DPS or any reasons at all.
[/quote]Oh wow…
You sure have been lucky…
lv90 dungeon has a bunch of players gunning for arde so they rush boss without telling their party.

[quote=“nizidr, post:7, topic:224353, full:true”]
But his point is also valid: there is no reason to full run lv50 dungeon at lvl 69.
[/quote]The other day I had a lv95 running lv50 dungeon
I was teasing him ‘you should be farming ardes!’
Think he took it as an offense and he said ‘I do what I want’
He did run a full run with us though.

Otherwise I still run Tenet at lv80 because lv70-90 takes forever and I feel like using up dungeon entries.

#15

noticed this but decided to stay quiet xD

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#16

I hope you never have to encounter similar random people again.

I’ve been lucky tho, most randoms i play with do full run, tho there’s that one time where, 1 was afk quite a while in the beginning.

Tenet are still good until 70 imho, beyond that would be a waste of time unless you need Silvers that bad and still dont have access to lv 90 dungeon.

Maybe they should implement report toxic players option for the next update :grin:

#17

[quote=“DeusVonLiber, post:16, topic:224353, full:true”]Maybe they should implement report toxic players option for the next update :grin:
[/quote]You should see the subforum of the reports.
Half of it you’ll be like ‘really? someone can be such a prick?’
and half of it you’ll be like ‘oh come on, live with it’

#18

popped in there a bit after you mentioned, I find it hilarious esp seeing some can withdraw their statement after experiencing it themselves :joy:

there should be some kind of penalty for them toxic peeps tho, it’s not encouraging seeing these kind of peeps especially on higher levels where they know themselves, grinding is hard at that level :sweat:

#19

[quote=“DeusVonLiber, post:18, topic:224353, full:true”]
there should be some kind of penalty for them toxic peeps tho, it’s not encouraging seeing these kind of peeps especially on higher levels where they know themselves, grinding is hard at that level :sweat:
[/quote]I lose faith in humanity more everyday so I just suck it up :sweat:

#20

Erm, am I the only one who sees OP more ‘toxic’ than that other guy? :sweat_smile:

It wouldn’t really matter to the rest of the party whether he left or stayed there afk waiting for the bossfight but you decided to be rather mean and abuse the report system. Logically, he would have still been there extra help against the boss.

You can’t really expect average person just take it all without commenting back when you decide to report him as a bot, call him an idiot and do rather illogical things like full run when it gives rather little exp compared to time it takes.

Anyways, reporting OP for harassing and I hope the rest do the same. Read the community guidelines if you don’t believe that this isn’t the right place to create flame threads and harass some other players :disappointed:

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#21

It is MORE xp in the dungeon then you get outside of it in the time spent, please stop talking you are exposing your ignorance.

And YES i have a 211 179 115 and 47 lvl characters i know exactly what im talking about, everyone who rush a dungeon and is within FIFTEEN levels of it is completely wasting good xp.

#22

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#23

I know sometimes even more abstract pieces of art can be captivating enough that you’ll get obsessed with it, but it would be still much appreciated (by me at the very least) if you stopped spamming that picture everywhere. It’s not aesthetically pleasing and it contains profanities and elements which could be interpreted as sexual content, which is against both terms of service and community guidelines.

#24

You get placed with people of your own level range. If you sign up well over the reasonable exp level it isnt strange to expect a boss rush really.

To be honest the most toxic thing I see in this situation is the OP and his groups behaviour…I mean the screenshots only show what happened after the OP reported.

There’s also a very convenient 4 minute gap in between them, what was said in those 4 minutes?

Another side, another story.

It seems we are in agreement.

Except the highest level here is 19 levels higher?

Excuse my ignorance.

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#26

I don’t know, to me, AFKing is more serious than retaliating to AFKers rudely. I’m not saying that retaliating in a bad way is a good thing and solves problems, because it clearly doesn’t, but I’m just pointing out that the fault element is always higher in the person who started the whole fiasco in the first place.

#27

[quote=“elysium, post:26, topic:224353, full:true”]
the fault element is always higher in the person who started the whole fiasco in the first place.
[/quote]somehow I feel like making up an idiom ‘blaming the smoke instead of the fire’

Okay sorry I’m outta here >.<

#28

But the problem clearly lies on just two different opinions, and how well you can handle people having different views that you do. Some people think that based on their calculations/estimations full run would be waste of time on those levels and others think it’s not. Now how can you determine which one started this fiasco?

You can easily argue that those others were rather illogical and wasting that one person’s time as well, because there will be no drops, very little extra silver and no excitement. That lvl 50 boss is actually pretty fun when you try to evade that green ring-shaped aoe attack by jumping over it. If he decided to just wait until the rest of the team gets to the part he queued for, I see no problem with that. With those levels the rest of the party will be easily able to clear the other parts. They wouldn’t even notice he is missing (well, you could always take time or calculate how many seconds/minutes faster they would theoretically clear those small mobs with his dps included). It wouldn’t affect the difficulty level though.

If you take into account only the behaviour you can see from op and on those screenshots, I’d say the problem is laying way more on the windysama/pinata’s end.

#29

Well technically I’d say he started it because he was the one who started AFKing in protest.

But let’s presume that he didn’t at the beginning. When the 5 people first enter a dungeon, I think most of them would expect a full run. But your argument would be something along the lines of “But it is okay for someone to suggest a boss rush”.

I agree with this. At this stage, nobody is right or wrong. As you say, it’s about whether boss rush vs full run makes sense, and not about who is right or wrong. To decide which decision makes sense, the most practical way would be a majority vote, simply because in a dungeon setting, you need as many players as possible to clear the objective, so you need the majority’s help to do so.

Then based on a majority vote of 4-1, they decided to go for a full run. They felt that this was sensible (subjectively, of course. whether it really is would not be what I’m concerned with), and had the expectations for the participants to follow that.

Now at this stage, we can decide if someone is right or wrong based on their behaviour. If someone griefs the dungeon because they didn’t get their way, then they would be ‘wrong’ because they didn’t comply with the group’s intention. E.g. AFKing, leaving, killing the boss prematurely.

Then this griefer would be the ‘one which started this fiasco’.

Oh god I think I’ve went on for too long. But I wanted to illustrate my reasoning process.

#30

agreed Im taking tostados side here he was just defending himself in the screenshots everyone ganging up and making up storys i bet u he afk’d cause they made fun of him being a br in beginning or sumtin lol

#31

You reap what you sow.

#32

I find it more inappropriate you went to name and shame on the forums.
Fake bot reports will just ruin your RII score.

#33

Woah, so many people manifested here.
Well i think that all we need is new options of report. And of course a vote to Kick.
You see… there is alot of salty morons that loves talking ■■■■ in DGs. Like this one guy that was blaming on me for heals. ToS is a game that if you want to heal you must step on top of it. Funny thing is that he was so blind to understand that not all clerics are total healing suports. And that heal have delay.
This time i wont post a picture, that would just make more flame.
So long, and thanks for all the fish.

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