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Nostalgia-fueled Peco Knight

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

I’m an old RO hand, so I just felt like trying to remake the old two-handed AGI knight build. Almost nothing works between Cataphract and two-handed swords, but I’m still curious if anyone has any clever ways to recreate the old RO knight. Highlander 1 gives you Crossguard (counter attack) and Cataphract 1 gives you the not-Peco. The most obvious build I could make was just Cataphract 1 (for mount) + Swordsman C3 + Highlander C3. The problem: I see no real strength here. Crossguard still works, but sources of damage are terribly limited. Anyhow, for usable two-handed sword skills on mount:

Swordsman: All skills. Good thing most are trash.
Highlander: Wheel (1), Crown (1), Crossguard (1), Moulinet (2), Skyliner (2), Skull Swing (3)
Peltasta: Swashbuckling (1), Guardian (1)
Hoplite: Stabbing (1), Pierce (1)
Barbarian: Helm Chopper (1), War Cry (2), Frenzy (2), Pouncing (3)
Cataphract: Trot (1), Steed Charge (1)
Rodelero: Montano (1)
Squire: Not the point.
Corsair: Iron Hook (1), Keel Hauling (1), Open Lock (1)
Doppelsöldner: Deeds of Valor (1), Mordschlag (1), Double Pay Earn (1)
Fencer: Zip.
Dragoon: Zilch.
Shinobi: Nada.

Toss out Ninja, Dragoon, Fencer, Squire, and Rodelero due to outright incompatibility, and that leaves a lot of autoattacks and some bad trees. Double Slash and Skyliner would be useful, but there’s no reliable bleed effect. I could go C3 Swordie C3 Highlander and hope R8/R9 bring better class options, but I don’t even have a reliable bleed for Skyliner and Double Slash. Hoplite would at least give me a bossing pierce attack, but C2 and C3 are never going to be worthwhile and the abilities would be outclassed by literally anything a new class could offer. Deeds of Valor is good, but Mordschlag and Double Pay Earn are pretty meh, so C2 Doppel is there but not really good. Corsair gives me a reliable bleed with Keel Haul, but that’s basically it.

C3 Swordie + C3 Highlander + C1 Cata? Weak damage, to say the least, especially without bleed. C1 Swordie + C2 Highlander + C1 Cata + C5 Corsair + C6+7 Doppel? Whole lot of basic attacks.

Any brave souls attempted to do this and have any lessons to provide? Maybe some gear that would offer reliable bleed or somesuch? Or maybe just hope for a future mounted swordsman?

(If this post sounds familiar, I originally had another thread for all classes, but had it deleted when no responses arrived. I’m breaking it into a thread for each build discussed now.)

#2

Well when you think about it, Knight/Lord Knigth was most about auto attacks on two handed sword builds. You would only have Bowling Bash as a dps skill and sometimes auto counter for some situations. But that was all.

I think what would be the most near that would be a Barbarian + CataphractC1

Maybe something like Swords1/Higlander1/Barbaria1/Cataphract1/Barbarian*3/?

But maybe stopping at Barbarian2 and taking Dopsoldner2 > cyclone can be used on mount normally (i’ve seen a Cataphract2 / Dopsold1 that was using cyclone and i don’t remember her having to unmount to use it).

And the doppel buff that gives you more damage for less def would somewhat look like frenzy of knigth when you had some barbarian into it.

The thing is since the game has changed and some skills that wheren’t compatible months ago and are now on the mount means that you have to do test of Highlander3 + Cata1 / Barbarian3 + Cata1 / Cata2+Doppsold2 to see which skills can be used on mount and which can’t now. And then you could choose where to go to make your Two handed sword Knight Type.

#3

If you are not fixed on the Peco.

barbarian C3 will resemble knight from RO best.

#4

catas can’t use cyclone but in C3 they have an similar skill called rush, for now theres no point in made an 2handed sword cata, his tree is entirely based in 2hand spears (40% block penetration is OP and as dragoon 14% more damage against boss large monsters only with 2 handed spears)

#5

I’m not saying Cata has cyclone. I’m saying i’ve seen a Cataphract-Dopsoldner and her cyclone worked on mounts (thing that wasn’t possible months ago) ^^

The guy want to do a Peco Knigth Two Handed Sword Style like on ragnarok not a spear one ^^ Taht’s why he wants Cata*1

#6

I’m pretty sure you can’t use Cyclone while mounted. Cataphract C3 has its own skill, called Rush, which roughly resembles Cyclone except is performed while mounted and with spear. Are you sure you’re not mistaking it for that, or just mistaking that he un-mounted and used the skill?

Anyhow, yeah, I could go Sword-High-Barb3-Doppel2 and be knight-ish, but that doesn’t really give me the Peco Knight feel. If I were to get a mount, Barb3 is just Skull Swing + Frenzy + Pouncing. There are just so many skills that can’t be used while mounted or can’t be used with a two-handed sword.

#7

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#8

Cata is the only viable swordie build. 1 circle in Cata automatically makes ur swordie better than most in pvp, imo. Sword3Cata1[anything else] after is pretty decent.

#9

Nostalgia-fueled train wreck.

Dont get me wrong, m8, I can understand nostalgia and I sure love RO, but making an unplayable mess out of your char just that you can feel nostalgic? Not a good idea.

Just go Sw3-Cata3-Dragoon1. It’s a good build for kicking arse in PvP.

#10

No doubt; I was quite aware at the start that it didn’t seem to work at this time. My curiosity is also a matter of equipment options, which may, for example, provide a usable bleed effect to allow Double Slash / Skyliner spam. In any case, I rather assumed that it would be tabled until balance changes or a rank 8-10 class made it less terrible.

I mean, it’s almost inevitable that I’ll choose a bad build anyhow. Question is just how bad. :wink:

#11

Well, it’s your funeral.

#12

Yep sadly it was on the first month that i’ve seen this cataphract, so with the switch of servers (i was on Orsha and am now on Fedimian) there’s no way of finding it again, the only possibility is to test it. But anyway maybe the guy used it but since now you have the auto unmount feature > When a skill can’t be used on mount, your character unmount and use it automaticaly. It could be that she unmounted automaticaly and then remounted as fast as possible. ^^

By the way, the unmount isn’t a problem in pve, since the pet don’t go hit a mob too far away most of the time, but in pvp it could be a issue. ^^