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Normal attack: can you build around it and not rely on the active damage skills (the long cd is turning me away)

For example: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/wv2hwdreos/ I’ve taken only buffs and avoided the damage skills. I have always hated CD’s as they promote skill cycling (something I really hate).

On a side note, do restraint, gung ho, concentrate, and pain barrier contribute to the buff cap?

Ontopic: I think you can do so for some sword class variants

Offtopic/rant: why do people like spamming the same skill over and over again?(Thats the thing I hated the most about RO).

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I think it’s no longer viable to invest in an auto-attack build, and yes all of those buffs contribute to the buff limit.

Hmmm so you want to press the same button over and over and over and over… with no combo or class combination :sweat:

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yo bro have you played any action mmos?

Yes, most action MMOs require you to chain skills, not use the same one everytime.

Just as side note.
There’s a bunch of skills with zero cd or 3 second cd.

Fletcher as example.
Or monks.

Try to look at the skills of all classes.
Some have absurd cd, others are skill spammers.

Thrust is 0 CD, put a point in it.
Bash is good for knockdowns, put 3 points in it for the Knockdown Attribute.
Pain Barrier is good to avoid being knocked back (or pushed, not knockdown), also put a point in it.

Other skills are your preferences, but there’s the Overheat System in ToS which basically allow you to use the same skill more than once before it goes on cooldown, so get those skills too since it seems you like Burst damage potentials. Even if you don’t use the rest of the Overheat system of a skill, it will still goes on internal cooldown that have the same CD as the overheated one (spent all the uses), but it will only regenerate one use of the Overheat system in comparison of all uses of the Overheated one.

Oh wow when did that change? That used to have 6sec cd like bash.

OK overheat is new to me. Imma go read up on that. Thanks for the heads up Ltb_Regen.

Yeah, it was changed around 1 month ago, I think.

From the Swordsman class alone, there are 2 Overheat skills, which are Pummel Beat and Double Slash. If I remember it right, Pummel Beat has 3 charges(uses) before going into cooldown, and Double Slash has 2 charges before going into cooldown.

I don’t know how much charges they have now, though. Also, if you want to get skills that have multiple charges, then consider going Highlander or Barbarian. Unless they’re dead, they can mow down enemies really easily.

Oh, and don’t forget to note about the AoE ratio of skills; more AoE ratio means more enemies you can hit with your skills, so take note of that one too.

One more thing, Corsair C2 practically exist to compensate people who want to Auto Attack a lot. Double Weapon Assault will be your main buff, apply it with other buffs and heavy-hitting skills with high CD will probably yield the best build if you want to go Auto Attack route.

Edit: Current spammable skills with 0 CD are:
Swordsman:

Swordsman’s Thrust
Fencer’s Flanconnade

Archer:

Archer’s Oblique Shot
Archer’s Heavy Shot
Ranger’s Critical Shot
Quarrel Shooter’s Stone Shot (requires stone)
Schwarz Reiter’s Limacon

Wizard:

None, as far as I know.

Cleric:

Monk’s Double Punch

There are also classes that have skills with less than 10 seconds CD, but that’s too many to list on.

Another Edit: Mistook Double Slash for Side Slash (Why do they change this skill name back and forth many times)?

Sadhu

Something just occurred to me. If some skills have 0 cd (thereby becoming my normal attack), how do I activate them? Do I spam the key (destroying my keyboard like I did in RO) or is it a toggle that i turn on or off?

Spam key. It’s not like you’re not spamming “z” if you’re using keyboard. If you’re using mouse or controller however, spam key/button.