Seems like you want to play an AFK Tank with Swash Buckle into throw weight on C Button.
I advise you to go Doppel 1, get Double Pay Earn 5 such that before a Boss dies you can remove the weight, press another button and then go for C again. Anything else after that doesn’t matter for you it seems. Dragoon 2 is still open then.
Quite the opposite. I’m looking for an even balance between offense and defense.
I’m also building very high DEX / evasion so I don’t need to rely on block rate to prevent physical dmg.
Why would a C spammer even bother getting Fencer 3, Doppel 3 or Dragoon 2? Just because I’m wearing a shield it means I’m limited to C spamming?
I’m just looking for dps alternatives to Murmillo that have similar tanking capabilities (Swash Buckling 10 and Slithering).
I’ve tried full CON peltasta C-spamming tankers in the past. Wasn’t fun (not for me). I don’t intend to trail that path again.
kToS ‘‘fixed’’ this, party members attacks now counts, so there goes the dirt cheap easy exp scroll skill down the drain(still not bad if you’re farming items from low level areas).
Oddly enough, as a fencer, I’ve noticed that I dodge more often when holding my guard up, perhaps there’s a hidden evasion boost while actively guarding.
I know. But There isn’t anything else for him to skill either. 
dragoon c2 honestly. Best synergy with a shield
fencer or dragoon are your best options, definitely not doppel.
you can also do rode 3 shinobi murmilo.
Non-2H sword skills in Doppel tree:
- Punish
- Deeds of Valor
- Mordschlag
- Double Pay Earn
- Cyclone
All have 15 levels. At C3 you have 45 skill points.
There’s your skills that can be used with any weapon. Deeds will reduce all armor to 0 so that shields physical defense will not mean anything. However magic defense is not touched.
Mordschlag is an insane knock back skill.
Punish at C3 is a big AoE attack only usable on knocked back monsters.
Cyclone is the bread and butter of the Doppel class.
Can you make a non 2H Doppel? Sure thing. Is it going to be as good as a 2H Doppel? No, because you miss out on the brand new R8 Doppel skills, one of which adds a new 50% more slash damage on cloth, leather and ghost.
Redel, Zucken and Zornhau all gain new attributes at C3 that make them hit twice or more hits.
The core of the class is to apply slash debuff and smack the monster hard with the skills mentioned and then rotate (no pun intended) into Cyclone and deal insane amounts of damage.
If you ignore them you’ll… well… you’ll be unique at least?
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Sw2>Hop2>Sair>Dopp3 for PvP meat blender madness XD
Restrain+Finestra+DOV+PB buffs
Hook>Stride(knockdown)>Punish>Cyclone
With defense buff.
I can solo 3 or 4 of them but need regen every time if doing dat…
lv10 Deeds of Valor
Without Deeds of Valor i can kill it with just one Cyclone.
Extra~
Just a sample i still testing and…still stuck on IMC’ed by Storage game crash…
It fun because with the new mission balance i can stack lv10 Deeds of Valor on boss fight.
In Pain Barrier 19sec just enought to do Umbo Thrust> Cleave> Cyclone just repeat dat.
With max buff use 2 Cyclone alway can hold aggro and then i can dancing around or press c.
(actually i just got one attack spell only .__.)
If low hp just press c and right click on Deeds of Valor icon to cancel it.
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Very interesting and unique build!
Please let us know how you perform once you hit rank 8 
Okey… i’m a stone age people that don’t know how to use youtube with toaster laptop.
And don’t mind that Tomb Lord card.
Coz it just for science purpose.
will you change your stat build with the new gems? but what can i say? your build works
you dont have high guard on during the videos though
How’s Punish’s attribute from Doppel 3? I heard it deals 1 line of dmg per mob hit with it?
How does Swash Buckling + Cyclone perform to keep aggro from mobs in rank 8 content? Do you still lose aggro when in a party with high dps rank 8’s?
Can you survive tanking with Deeds of Valor only with your block rate? Or do you have to keep it off?
I can change to defend mode without losing cri.
Add str is better so my PATK not gonna drop too much.
And DOV buff too much with just little PATK in attack mode.
(1k cri is too hard to get anyway.___.)
I not really know much on Punish’s coz just got lv 5 only.
But it even can hit mob that standing still.
example:
1.Knock down 2 or 3 mob
2.Use Punish’s in group of mob with knock down mob.
3.All dead gg.
test on low hp mob only and you still need knock down some mob 1st.
i just lv 280 only it too hard to tell at rank 8 content.
(i heard it need pt.__.)
In Valkyrie boss video i alway do that at start of boss fight.
Full hp is useless anyway for a tank.
More pain more gain.
If low hp just pop “High Guard” press c and right click on Deeds of Valor icon to cancel it.
(most under level boss not gonna hurt you much…)
In grind i just change to defend mode for long fight.
Your build is really curious. Since doppel use dov to get 0 def, in your case, you can still defend your self your with block.
I have a question: High guard can negate DoV from eat your defence?
nope it can’t.
it just buy more time for you to survive.
(two boss knock down too much so lazy about it.__.)
Will 2 handed spear work for any of these skills? Also, will 1 handed sword + shield or 1 handed + gun work?
None of those skills have weapon requirements, meaning you can use them with any weapon or even no weapon at all.