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They were though. The price was made universally approximately $50. There is no more regional pricing now.

well, the fact that it -wasn’t- that way to begin with was pretty stupid.

Not really. I’ll use some of my current living situation to exemplify why this is. I currently live in the 6th most expensive city in the USA. The second half of this year I will be travelling though, primarily through Southeast Asia.

During that time, I will be staying in hotels that go as low as $8-10 a night, with meals averaging $4. It will literally be significantly cheaper to rent hotels and eat out every day there than it would be to rent a one bedroom apartment here and eat nothing but rice and eggs. Do you think they should pay the same amount for a game that I should? $50 holds WAY less value here than it does there. 4 hours of minimum wage work here would get you the best founders pack. 4 hours of minimum wage there would barely get them the worst one. That’s not fair.

I don’t agree with what IMC did, but it is definitely their right to do so. It is just a shame that so many dishonest players can ruin things for others.

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blegh, yea, i can’t really disagree with that.

oh well, doesn’t matter -that- much, f2p anyway in a week-ish.
almost everyone that was gonna buy it by now probably already bought it.

4 hours of minimum wage would get you $50 for the best founder’s pack? What city do you live in?

I am from Seattle, Washington. It’s fairly easy to get a job for $16-17 an hour here. Minimum wage is $13 an hour, soon to be $15. I did not include federal income tax though (we have no state tax), nor the tax on the founders pack sale. Overall you would be approximately $8 short with that all included. I feel my point still remains valid though.

An interesting side-note is that Seattle is one of the few places in USA that also pays their waitstaff, baristas, and bartenders minimum wage, so they can make quite a bit with tips included. I would imagine this would be very important for other career choices as well, but I can’t think of any examples currently.

Also, as I said before, it is very expensive to live here. A one bedroom apartment could easily cost you $1200, and I’m not talking about a nice place downtown. The minimum wage increase here was a rather recent trend pushed through by a socialist city council member we have who is absolutely wonderful, but now I’m straying very far off topic.

that $50 there equals to 200 here though

As I stated in my previous post, I don’t agree with the price adjustment that IMC made. It is their right to do so , however, and it doesn’t matter very much given that the game will be free in 8 days.

It does matter …for cheaper early TP for future use, but you’re right. They do have the right to do so, not that we can do anything about it.

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That is a valid point, and should be addressed. I think the most fair solution would be everyone in a country that had the price raised more than 10% should get a one time coupon for 30% off a TP purchase of $100 or less…or something to that effect. This would balance everything out in the end.

I don’t think this will fix it at all. They need to bring back regional price, atleast when f2p launch since there will be no use of founder pack anymore. If not, I doubt anyone outside of first world country would even bother to spend money to get a skill reset in this game that is filled with bots while restricting every inch of the game for you.

[quote=“Vanic, post:10, topic:206315, full:true”]hotels that go as low as $8-10 a night, with meals averaging $4. It will literally be significantly cheaper to rent hotels and eat out every day there than it would be to rent a one bedroom apartment here and eat nothing but rice and eggs. Do you think they should pay the same amount for a game that I should? $50 holds WAY less value here than it does there.
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Do you realize that developers from IMC are not living in one of those countries? Neither they’re charitable organization. They’ve made a product and they set a fixed price for their product.

If you were to sell something on ebay, let’s say something you bought for $200 from your local store (with money you worked for). You want to sell it for at least $150 because the thing is still relatively new and in good condition, so you set a fixed price of $150 for that item. Would you sell it for $40 instead of $150 just because a buyer is from Thailand? Well… maybe you would, but that’s not how business works. They need to run a company and pay salaries to a lot of staff (first world country level salaries).

I don’t know how many times I have to repeat the same thing:

DLC DID NOT INCREASE IN PRICE, they just removed the regional prices from steam in order to AVOID abuse and exploitation from RMTers, wich is a perfectly valid reason.

quoting myself so that these people can understand WHY this had to be done:

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They did, your argument is invalid. Now please leave.

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Actually that is EXACTLY how business works. Maybe that’s not how things work in your little e-bay focused world, but real brick-and-mortar businesses charge different prices based on whichever country they are based in. Do you think Starbucks in Indonesia charge $6 for a cup of coffee? Be real. Businesses in the USA even regionally charge depending on where in this country they are located!

I’m not sure how this concept confuses you. I thought I explained it pretty clearly. It’s honestly just common sense if you actually think about it.

Alright, if that’s how you’re going to talk, I can tell you that your little Starbucks focused world is a completely irrelevant and silly example. Because at the very least Starbucks in Indonesia pays Indonesian salaries to their staff, not to mention cost and sources of ingredients they use.

IMC don’t have branches all over the world, their business is in South Korea and that’s where they develop this game, while having to pay South Korean rent, pay South Korean salaries, etc.

Do you finally understand the difference? THEY ARE LOCATED IN SOUTH KOREA, not in Brasil, not in Indonesia, not in Africa. There is only ONE place where this game was developed.

Because using ME as an example is a MUCH better example, right? You literally used a single person selling something on e-bay as an example of an international company and have the audacity to talk about the absurdity of a legitimate example. I’m done here. You have nothing of even minor value to contribute. If you ever gain some common sense, I’ll be here waiting for you.

Well then…lets follow your logic…
If they are at South Korea shouldnt they charge us for Korean currency ???

Just don’t bother. He clearly doesn’t know how international companies work. He cited a single person selling on e-bay as a prime example of an international company…

My example was just something abstract (it doesn’t matter whether it’s about you, e-bay or any other company… logic remains the same) but accurate unlike yours - if it cost you a very specific amount of money to make something and you have a very specific price tag on it, it doesn’t make sense to make it cheaper for person B than for person A just because person B is poor.

And I thought I explained in details why your example isn’t even applicable to ToS. Again, because lower prices in Indonesia are applied to a business owner as well (rent, salaries, ingredients, etc), not only to his customers.

You’re the one who lacks common sense and basic knowledge here, yet trying to accuse me of that even after a proper explanation. That’s called being delusional.

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