Nothing change in my stats.
you mean the Hoplite skills? i saw the pierce works but idont know about stabbing.
But let me warn you that if your going for Hoplite just because Clones can copy pierce then think twice. because shinobi clones or bunshin no justsu Should be only Use Swordsman Skills according to the skill description and hoplite skills shouldn’t be possible but it is. We don’t know if it is bug or intended maybe in the future they fix it. But if your into it. Go for it my friend. 
got the same build. Dont u think that shinobi skills have low dmg? also, why the clones stay out of range when atacking with basic atacks (they stay far away when atacking an enemy)
You saw ? so it’s mean you didn’t have Hoplite in your build ?
Nope i go hoplite coz something else 
I wanna try theory in my mind
if not will go barbarian with OP Cleave debuff + 3 Overheat now
yea with my friends. its easy to do when killing a low level boss but its hard to do when the boss is the same level as you especially when you don’t have cleric in the party. lol yup im a sword type class shinobi. but if they clear the bug about the clone thing i might create new and go for spear but for now lets experiment and wait for updates about the class.
Awesome, bcuz most people go for spear because of the clones that can copy pierce attack of hoplite… but anyway Goodluck hope your theory works.
I need to see it by myself to confirm. Not sure about it yet.
you mean clone can copy the hoplite stabbing skill???
Are you saying that any one hand sword / spear skills can be copied by clone?
What about 2 hand weapon required skills?
How does Kunai Damage Scale?
I focus on PvE how has Shinobi been for you PvE wise?
No. i’m just answering his question about hexe skill, what i’m trying to say is CLones cant use Sub weapons and by that skills that require sub weapon like hexe or dust devil wont work on clones, not all skills can be use by clones it would be OP if it is. LOL only Swordman Skills are copied, and few hoplite skills too which should not be working.
Kunai? your str and level of the skill ofc.
In my opinion. its not really that good, if your looking for strong swordman pve or in pvp class go for dragoon instead… but it depends in how you build your class prior getting shinobi.
@Kusgan
Thanks for responding.
As for scale, I meant is Kunai strong even at higher lvls.
Some eary strong skills tend to become weak mid / high lvl.
Have you tried out shinobi tanking?
No prob dude.
Yes kunai is strong. its one of the skill of the shinobi that must be max in my opinion.
every time we grind i always tank and its not that bad thou.
So perhaps Shinobi concentrating versatilty with tanking and moderate DPS might be viable?
currently I am sword pel hop hop about to pick cor then a second level of cor for hexen, ignoring the last rank Hexen, Stab, and Pierce can dish some very high burst especially when coupled with concentrate and blessing. Perhaps something like a 2 :1 str/ dex ration or even 2.5:1 which will give decent damage and evasion.
We are grateful @Kusgan that you’re sharing your experiences and learnings about the Shinobi class. This helps our fellow ninja with the same desires as we are 
Hope we will find viable builds for Shinobi class in the future.
Cheers!
@kusgan what build have you follow? and what you think its the best stat distribution?
Have you tested the Katon skill?
My build atm is experimental, its swordc1-palesta-barbc2-corsair-dopple-shinobi. so basically i have 6 class and i dont recommend this.
Best stat? depends on what type of player are you. but for me it would be str all the way and a 80base dex and 50base con.
Yea katon is a great skill since it will give you stealth after you use the skill, this will give you advantage in pvp combat.
Hi, I started a shinobi for pvp using similar build (Barb C1 atm), and have many questions, if you wouldn’t mind.
First, I was wondering how often do you use barb skills in pvp? I get that it’s good to have options, but I see a few people simply bashing into hook and it seems effective enough cc-wise.
Next, I was on the fence about doppel vs corsair2 for the 6th circle. Mostly due to cyclone’s 75% avoidance of negative effects attribute. Does it block debuffs such as frozen / stun? Is it possible to use mokuton, then cyclone into a hit and land on the person, while continuing to cyclone?
Finaly, some questions about shinobi circle.
Regarding stealth, is there any movement penalty while invisible? Are you able to sprint during it? does it break on any damage taken, including DoTs?
What is your opinion about mijin? Does the self damage scale with your stats or is it flat amount?
Would putting 1 point into Bunshin mean you take no extra damage? (1X Damage modifier according to tos-base).
Sorry for so many questions, it’s hard to find any good info on shinobis.
Hmm, if clones can use double strike of swordman, then i think they can also use skyliner of highlander…
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Time and Location: April 17th, 3:24 pm (server time) at Fedimian’s streets, ch 13.
Mission: Get the darn Empty Scroll
Rank: A
Duration: 1.5h
Status: Complete.
Proceeding to the next freaking step.
congratz bro XD
May the force be with you
There are many Shinobi players right now in the game. But I don’t know why they don’t even share their experiences and info with other people. Good thing @Kusgan shares his. I hope there will be more Ninjas that can share their experiences and some info as well
Give me a year…and i’ll share everything i know about shinobi lol