That would be fine I guess. It really depends on your class build. Although it may have potential according to your theory. Why not try it out? There’s no harm in trying right? 
I have something in mind, in fact a theory craft class build, that deals decent damage with or without using Bunshin Clones. If you wanna know…just tell me 
My theory…
Armor break > all
Please do tell. does it involve Mijin no Jutsu?
And as for my class build, Unfortunately I don’t think it would utilize clones to the fullest, if Deeds of Valor doesn’t make them attack faster. I don’t have the swordsman skills either. But what I’m going to do is test a lot when I get level 1 and level 2, and see how that fairs and if it’s worth it. If not I guess I’ll end up just use it sparingly for burst damage against bosses…
I’m lv 217 tonight lol
Just a Lil bit more…but I hate grinding.
I dropped my controller multiple times last night…and fall asleep during grinding…
Is it necessary to get pel c1 since there are hoplite class in the build? Or it will do fine without pel. Plus swordsman, hoplite c2,corsair c2,shinobi build on weapon choice is spear and dagger with spear and shield as swap?
eiii no 
This will be your sparing partner…In this in coming patch, new Boss:
Scary huh? haha
Try this build:
SwordC3 > BarbC2 > Fencer > Shinobi
This build in my opinion is for Advance Players. This deals burst damage too. It can’t tank pretty well because this is more on evasion build. It can potentially stun lock the enemy if used and played well without using Bunshin clones. I wanna try this build so bad to be honest.
They have great synergy and combos too…
If you have any question about this build please don’t hesitate to ask 
Yep a Fencer Wielding Ninja like this guy:
But seriously, this build totally rocks…and I can’t wait to test it out myself! 
get some sleep…you freaking maniac! 
hahahahahahaha!
Let your girlfriend pilot your controller for quite some time dude, while you’re playing…
If you don’t get this, I swear to god I’ll passed out XD
That would not be necessary. Either way its fine.
It would be better if you just use 1H spear and a dagger only…no need with a shield…but if you wanna have some swap go ahead. In my case, I am lazy to swap weapons hehe…except if I’m using Rapiers, not that is required for me 
My girlfriend would’ve been more tired than me…Cuz I work her out so much, I even lost count.
Now that’s what I call, pure GRINDING
No wonder you level up so fast XD
bwahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha!!
Well, your build is probably the best dps build that also has the evasion to not get killed while you’re using everything.
My build won’t really be shinobi focused, I just think it’ll be fun to have it as a bonus <3
Thinking about it I dont think it’s worth only getting 1 or 2 points in clones. ill try, butI have some ideas for how to use the clones with buffs, I’ll be stealthy about it …
But it has drawbacks…
Rapiers have the lowest durability in entire weaponry.
Consumes too much SP
This is Skill Oriented build not relying on auto-attacks. So, if you don’t know/forgot the combo while you’re fighting, you blacked out…Good luck to you my precious friend XD
Extremely weak on Magic attacks. I think every swordsman does XD
Unless you wear a Cloth type armor…
Mokuton No Jutsu, Katon no Jutsu, and Kunai are always there.
Katon deals decent AOE damage too FYI.
It’s your choice man. That is your game style, we totally respect it
besides, some Shinobi Players doesn’t get Bunshin Clones because of Bugs. It’s like they’re Lone Wolf Ninjas!
The damage doesn’t seem very high on Katon.
I’m wondering if anyone has found a way to use Mijin well…
Some don’t get clones at all? I think getting at least 1 point in clones might be useful even just to get off more kunais. 
It’s because Clones are risk vs reward
Some people don’t like risks and would rather prefer a stealthy approach 
And regarding that Ninja with rapiers, too bad it’s only a Dragon Age mod LOL
At least, it has damage rather than nothing XD
Besides it’s just number. You have to see it in action.
Just like Dust Devil…I underestimated it to much because as I have seen, it seems pretty weak. But when I used it…WTF, it is awesome!
I think some one did that…I’ve seen and talked to him once…he invested his stats on this stat distribution:
3 DEX…2 CON…1 STR
And he seems okay as of now…He is using Swash Buckling + Mijin Combo too…in PvE that is.[quote=“Windful, post:616, topic:190089”]
Some don’t get clones at all? I think getting at least 1 point in clones might be useful even just to get off more kunais.
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That’s their game style dude. We can’t do anything about it.
Oh shut up…You are also guilty on this Ninja with Rapiers 
You better share your experiences here, or else I’ll call this guy to hunt you down…
FEAR HIM!! bwahahahaahahahahahhahahaha! 
I’m wondering if anyone knows, when using the clones but only charge up to only get 1 clone (when you have the skill at a higher level), does it negate the extra damage you would take if you make more than one?
(In other words, if you just want to make 1 clone and be safe even if you have the skill leveled up, can you do that?)
I’m not sure about it. I mean, the math I’m not sure. But the reports of other Shinobi players says whenever they use Bunshin Clones they feel like Squishy even at level 1. But still, I’m not sure about that. I need to verify it in my end. Good question though.
This info may benefit you…
- mijin is considered bug right now. not worth for a single point.
- katon is specially for stealth 8 seconds max attribute. the attack
damage is average. (i don’t use it to attack monster, but utilize the
stealth ability to prevent enemies attacking me). lv1 is also far than
enough, if you got extra skill points. then should consider raising a
bit to use its attack power
- mokuton is also another skill you need to get max attribute making
the mobs/enemies stalled at the position (still can hit you). lv1 is far
than enough.
- bunshin is clones for skills, lv5 is a must. it only replicates
attack skill from shinobi’s kunai attack skill and swordman c1-c3 attack
skills. the drawback is, very weak evasion and defense once summoned more than 2 clones. you can easily killed your own if not handling properly.
- kunai is the best skills in attacking, lv5 no doubt. without
bunshin, it still gives a good attack damage. it can attacks in range
(around 5 steps from your origin position).
This info is from @jinfin
He is an experience Shinobi Class Player from kTOS or Korean TOS.
I’ve seen this info when he post this in one of Cathexis’ Guide.
However, I’m not sure if he is playing in iTOS…I hope he does…lol 
