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#173

That’s exactly what I was going to say … +21 with a single fault … there’s no way to be just luck …
It is past their time to put a limit on the refinement of equips and a method of getting 100% equal in transcend.
While the IMC does not change, it’s all such antics … the guys who know how to tweak in the refinement are getting rippled and infinitely more equipped …

It’s rather boring to play ToS these days. To tell you the truth, I currently only enter to make the events (the ones that are worth it) and World Boss, PVP no longer has much fun since it is quite unbalanced, both the classes as these weapons, invisible archers and Sage nerfed, No one for the archers. So I go out to play HoN which has a balanced PVP.

Unfortunately I have not been very excited to play because either are repetitive and boring things like ET and Salus or event.

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#174

It was 100% luck, for the first time on my entire tos playtime i got something nice.

Previous attempt of refining was on a heart of glory, which ended up +6 with 0 potential.

#175

Friend, I’ve refined hundreds of items and NEVER, no items reached +11 without fail.
There is no way to be lucky!

Defend this system, just show me that you also benefit from it or else you must believe in Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny.

If it’s the second option, keep believing and be a good boy to receive your Christmas gift.

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#176

I got a manamana to +11 without a single fail…but thats about it.

#177

Okay, buddy.
But +11 is one thing +21 is another.

According to the game, until the +10 you have a high success rate% that is decreasing up to 51%.
However, from the +10 to the front it is all 51% chance of success.

From +10 to +21 are 11 attempts with 51%.
Without taking into consideration the +5 to the +10 without failing what is possible, but not happening all the time. In this case one has failed, perhaps the person has missed the trick. Assuming 11 attempts without fail are …

(Chance) ^ N attempts => (51%) ^ 11 = 0.0006 (6 in 10,000).
In percentage it would be 0.06%.
Less than 1% …
Less than 0.5% …
Less 0.1% …

I’m showing you mathematically … Now, if you believe that there really is nothing strange, then …
… keep believing and be a good boy to receive your Christmas gift.

#178

@guilhermepfvf
You can say whatever you want, but the truth is that it got to +20 without fail, then when back to +19 then got to +21.

I traded it for a +14 heart of glory with 6 pot left, i wanted to refine it to +16 and call it done, but it failed 6 times in a row and now i ended up with garbage.

That’s the way this game works, it’s all about luck (I’m not denying some people are cheating one way or another, but i’m not one of them)

#179

I saw weapons go straight to +11 without failing and ending +6 0pot, or weapons at +8 1 pot reaching +17.

The ■■■■ is just pure RNGjesus and thats why the refine system is broken af. Btw all i see here is envy.

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#180

Random numbers are random

Ya don’t say?

#181

I don’t know about other f2p but in mobile games, and korean video games, it’s an insensitive to gamble.
I see 3 ways, brute force anviling several weapons, or buy very expensive diamond anvils for more rng and 3 times the cost of your weapon to have a SLIGHT change to get maybe +15 or +16 and call it quits.

#182

solmeme
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it’s all about luck, sometimes you failed so much you ended up with sooo many +6 +7 0 pot orange, and i call this my lucky day. Trust me, i do have anvilphobia that my hands auto sweaty everytime i see an anvil.

#183

well, tbh ragnarok’s monster cards were 0,01% drop chance… yet ppl still dropped.

it can happen.

as a lawyer i must say that until you have evidence you can’t go around calling ppl cheaters… i mean, you can, but you shouldn’t.

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#184

NERF THIS PLEASE!!!

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#185

What The Fish RMT, HACKER, CHANNEL CRASH ABUSER spotted!!! (@Nvictus, 2017) :wink:

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#186

Here comes my #1 fan. :sweat_smile:

#187

Wrong, it’s IMC idol. :wink:

#188

Oh,Yes!! He is my Guild mate. And I hate him too!! lol. He stuck me too.-*- But I told him use energy bolt for cancel bug too…after that he told me.He always cancel it.
I know you know, it’s not fair…Can you feel proud by bug?

In the pass of me… Snow rolling bug…if i cancel it I will do!!!..but I don’t know to cancel it.Sry
and this skill is One of the few skills can bring many God of Cleric class to res their friends.T T

I really don’t want to be Bugger but IMC force me. … But you can choose. all right? up to you
sorry for my poor english…lol

#189

yeah, i did see your friend use energy bolt to unstuck and like did not see it.

PS: necro debuff is so OP X_X

#190

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#191

After the third week or…I’m uncertain. and this week he bored to play.And ran out to watched anime and popcorn. :prince:

#192

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