a cc with a duration of 14 seconds shock nobody?
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wellâŚyeah⌠it should be definitely tweaked a bit whatever others sayâŚ
Itâs not always 14 seconds. It also has an attack threshold. Furthermore it has a cast time and as a result can be interrupted unless you use Surespell as well. There are far worse CC abilities (like frost pillar which also doesnât need a nerf I donât think).
You have to remember that in order to get sleep level 15, you have taken Wizard twice, putting you at C3. You sacrificed a lot of ranks to get there. That skill should be good as itâs one of your rewards.
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Youâre playing as the worst PVP class in the game.
You wouldnât win against a decent Wizard even if he didnât have sleep.
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For a sleep of 14 secs you have to get to wiz3. Wiz1 is bad and Wiz2 is worthless
At some point in the wiz tree you do more dmg with autos than with energy bolt, making magic missile the only worth skill, and itâs bad on 1vs1
Sleep is countered by a 500g scroll in the market
If youâre not a mouse user, sleep is hard to land (a couple of seconds), or it should be. If youâre someone who stands in just one place autoatacking then I feel so sorry for you.
The wizrad just have to cast speel on him while iâm in melee and itâs over.
I think the main thing is that a pvp should never end in 1 move⌠Thatâs why Snipe was (or is?) ridiculous tooâŚor Stone SkinâŚ
Also I donât know how would it be good but thatâs not an excuse for anything that you need Wiz c3 for it. Like c3 priest is not an excuse for Stone Skin either.
Also pvp and pve doesnât have to be the same so it can stay op in pve. Also I donât like dispellers and PD and Prophecy eitherâŚthese all should be tweaked.
How To Avoid Sleep:
- Step 2 inches to the left or right
The End.
The game isnât and wonât ever be balanced for 1v1. This game is not Blade and Soul, if youâre looking for a balanced 1v1 experience then go play that. This game is all about group content. Dueling is most for fun, you get nothing out of it.
And theres a whole lot more unbalanced things in 1v1. For example, clericâs heal is pretty OP, since unless you can one shot them they just heal to full, its a pretty hard battle to win. If they went full CON Im very doubtful theres much you could do to win. But im not asking for a nerf, its just that the game wasnât designed with 1v1 PvP as a main feature.
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One thing to note though is that even in 5v5 PvP, or GvGs, hardly anyone will be incapacitated for the full duration.
Hell even in an instanced dungeon sometimes Iâm lucky to have a full 2 seconds of Sleep duration (I have a lvl15 Sleep) because of all the spam hits people stack. Unless you are fighting a team where they are premade and have great coordination the Sleep will likely get wasted because the general idea thus far is that if a mob is asleep everyone targets them immediately and unloads instead of trying to kill the non-ccâd enemies.
In a 1v1 it is very OP because the caster will know to use the time to set up something, but, itâs not scaled for 1v1. Just wait until you start a duel with a Musketeer and immediately get Snipe KOâd before you can even move an inch.
As @Tomazelli pointed out, everyone and their mom neglects SPR. And Iâve said it before; people are going to kick themselves come level 600 and they have 0 investment into SPR thinking âOh, I donât need mana, so I donât need SPRâ instead of realizing it increases MDEF and affects CC as well. That is seriously like saying âOh, I donât need HP Recovery, so I donât need CONâ lol? Mark my words XD People are going to be up a creek someday =P
So on this game if a controlâs duration is about 14 seconds itâs normal ⌠ok ⌠â â â â logic.
PS : Why do my stun donât cc for a minimum of 3 seconds?
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Oh god so many fools around.
OP is right, Crowd Control effects should be adjusted.
I think there should be a duration cap for those effects + diminishing returns.
Those stuns shouldnt last longer than 5 seconds.
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Sleep can be avoided by moving or more spr. This game is more about fighting in a group so if you think CC is overpowered, fight along side a Plague Doctor or Oracle.
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A lot of classes havenât been scaled for PvP yet. There are some, though, that have started receiving specific nerfs for PvP exclusively. IMC may reduce the total duration to, say, 5 seconds VS another player at a later time. We donât even have the arena yet.
In the meantime you can:
- Invest points into SPR instead of ignoring it and then complaining you donât have the exact perks that SPR offers lol
- Bring dispeller
- Stop dueling your friend or beg him to not use the CC he specifically dumped points into lol
The CC has a specific duration, but, also is restricted by how many hits you receive. And, again, itâs VS a Wizard. Wizards use MATK. If you want to survive against magic then please bring some high MDEF. Wearing full-plate with a STR/DEX/CON split isnât suited to fighting mages.
-> sleep monsters
-> monsters wake up in 2s
-> skills cast 10s
-> rekt
you choose âfriendly dualâ with a freaking wiz and now you cry on forum?
âfirendly duelâ? hello? go to sleep plz.
You can screenshot your character screen and post it here. If we see that youâre actually invested into SPR to fight Wizards, and have a high MDEF value from gear and stats, then we can talk about this seriously. Iâm completely ready to see the screenshot and see why CC and the Wizardâs MATK damage affects you so much when thatâs exactly what a high SPR is the defense against.
Until then we have to assume youâve gimped yourself vs CC and MATK making it your Achilles heel by ignoring the SPR stat and MDEF gear and then complaining here how itâs your weakness.
It would be good if ppl would stop defending broken things but somehow it is like that from the beginning here⌠It kinda worries meâŚbut nvm I can enjoy the game like this too⌠I may just use those broken things too⌠I just donât get why an imbalanced game is perfectly good for others in any way.
I wanted to react to you when you said SPR gives MDEF but than I deleted it before posting⌠and now I see this again XD Please⌠donât ever mention SPR and MDEF⌠that is just ridiculous⌠
It gives like 40 with 200 SPR⌠⌠⌠⌠⌠⌠⌠⌠âŚ
On a serious note they should rly adjust MDEF and DEF tooâŚbecause they arenât rly good in generalâŚ
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lol thatâs true, it doesnât give a lot, which is why I mentioned that MDEF on gear is also essential. SPR does directly influence CCâs though making it unique in that regard.
On a side-note I am a wizard. But Iâve also gimped myself a hundred different ways. I can be one-shot by nearly anyone regardless of which skill they use. I have to rely heavily on positioning and awareness and my opponentâs lack of those things to be successful in PvP. Iâm not making threads complaining about those things so when the OP comes here to suggest that his running into a spell effect with his poor positioning and (nearly guaranteed) lack of SPR/high MDEF (donât worry, nearly everyone neglects this still, not just OP) then it really triggers.
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yes, also Chaplain, Alchemist, genius, billionaire and philanthropist.