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Need some templar help

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Hey guys,

I want to create a guild for my friends, so I’ll be rushing a templar when the game launches, but I’m not sure what classes I should pick. So far, I know I want to go Swordsman > Peltasta c2 > ??? > Fencer > Templar. The question is what classes should I get rank 4 and 5?
Also, is it viable to run a guild if the templar is your alt character? Since I’ll probably have to put 3 ranks into templar to max out the guild related skills, I don’t know how useful I’ll be in PvE/PvP content and I fear I’ll have to level another character to be able to do this kind of stuff.

Thanks in advance!

#2

N no love for Templars. :c I’m thinking about a utility templar myself, because it’s petty utility based all on it’s own, so I think I’ll get two ranks in squire. Still can’t decide on how tanky I wanna be.

Any reason you don’t want to go two in fencer? Or three in peltasta? Or, other way around.

I wish we knew what’s happening with cent. D: I need a centurion guild master.

#3

Since Templar is rank 7, and all other rank 7 classes are about DPS (fencer is not a tank in any way), it should be viable to go full tank to prevent being handicaped. BUT, the thing is, that i can’t really see how does full tank in tos looks like (class-vise, not including stats).

  1. Full peltasta will give us flat amount of def (via Guardian), not %, so it’s not effective, if we consider 11 targets of swashbuckling enough for tanking.
    As for the HighGuard and it’s 240 blockrate, is it even required when we can just press C ?
  2. Rodelero is kind of a control class, and it’s not really gives you reasonable boost in survivability to max it. Viable for 5v5 arena and GvG, imo.

This 2 points took me into consideration of Sword-Pelt-Hop3-Doppel-Templar. It’s a bruiser, indeed, but i believe it will be usefull.

We also can go into tank-utility, wich seems a good alternative, with Squire2 or Corsair2.

  1. Taking Squire seemed for me a win-win, but the guild said i’m an idiot and there’s no point in Squire if it’s not Squire3, since Weapon Maintenance 10 is inferior to lvl 15 in any possible way.
  2. Corsair with a shield is…i don’t know, it works, but is it effective enough?
#4

lets leave out the templar for now, what do you want your character to do?
from the path you choose i asume you want to tank?
but what about pvp and stuff? whats your take on that?

if you give me a few pointers i can try put something together for you

#5

Correct me if I wrong, but Isn’t Weapon Maintenace levels just change the amount of hits ?

Let’s assume you have attribute maxed(that’s +2000 hits). At level 10, you’ll have 7000 hit count. It’s duration is one hour, so dividing count for duration you should have something close to 2 hits per second.

Now, can you say realistic that you’ll hit uninterruptedly 2 hits per second during one hour ?

#6

What is tanking in this game exactly? Using Swash Buckling to gather mobs and using Shield Guard? If that’s tanking you don’t really need to build into tanking, do you? You only need to pick peltasta (1 or 2 circles) and you’re ready to “tank”.

I want to play fencer and I also want to run my own guild. Peltasta is way better than swordsman c2 for PvE and it’s almost must pick if you plan on playing PvE and PvP on the same character. That’s the reasoning I want to pick both peltasta and fencer, but I don’t know what will be good rank 3~5 (if I don’t go c2 peltasta) classes to play with fencer.

If tanking is not about swash buckling > shield guard, what are some good classes to get?

If I want to go dps while still grabbing peltasta, what are some good classes to get? Barbarian c3 maybe?

Thanks for the help!

#7

According to TOSBASE maintenance formula for dmg is skill lvl+1 X weapon stars, thus for 5star we have 55 vs 80 dmg for lvls 10 (squire2+templ) vs (squire3)

AND Penalty Reduction which comes on c3 is also a thing.

I personaly wouldn’t mix a GM char with a squire, if it can’t be combined properly

#8

i was struggling picking a route to go with templar * i still am*. i think you cant really go far wrong with swordsman 1 peltasta 1 as wether you use a shield or not i heard swash buckler can/will be useable without a shield eventaully. even if you cant use the shield moves having a move that provokes a bunch of foes is going to be handy as well as boosting your max hp. guardian is worth getting a level 1 too if you dont want to use gung ho. the evasion boost is nice.

what you take after that really is depending on what weapon you plan to use.

like if you wanna use spears its worth going hoplite twice to get finestra.
where you go from that depends on if you want mobility catathract till templar or ground combat hoplite 3, doppel 1

regarding fencer from what i hear going barbarian 3 is a good choice for the buffs and skills you can get. if you were to use a rapier and a shield id probably reccomend peltasta 2/3 and getting high guard to maximize your defensive stats. you do however get a damage penalty using rapier and a shield from what i heard.

i do have one question though is there a delay in weapon swap? and is sub weapnos swapable? i was planning on going Swordie 1- Pelt 1 - Hoplite- 2 Corsair -1 Doppel - 1 and Templar -1 and wielding a spear and shield and to swap to a pistol when at a further distance * i know the range is not amazing but i though it some sort of extra range*

#9

Sorry if this is considered necroing an old thread.

You need C3 corsair to equip pistols. I had a similar build like yours planned out for templar, Corsair - Doppel - Temp for the last few ranks. Figured it would be a good source of income from corsair’s flag + doppel’s double pay earn, which I believe templars will need (upgrading guild passives, maybe future guild things that need $$) while the buff from doppel and cyclone would be enough to keep our damage up to date.

The people who I’ve gotten advice from say this is a pretty sub-optimal build though. I have no idea if that’s just based on theorycrafting (like you and me) or if this combination has been tested in kOBT/iCBT.

Yes, sub weapons are swappable, delay may depend on ping, sometimes I swap instantly sometimes I have a few seconds of spamming the button before it even registers the command >_>.