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Need some help on Hop3-Goon Build

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Hello there! This is my first swordman character. I now have a Archer1-Ranger3-Fletcher3 and a Archer2-Ranger1-Scout3-Rogue1. I am playing another character to excel in general PVE, and hopefully can do some PVP.

My Build

This is the build that i plan to go, Sw-Pel-Hop3-X-Dragoon2.

I am choosing corsair for X, because I thought Jolly Roger for farming and Hook to be somewhat viable for PVP. I need some advise on this, whether i am thinking it right, or no.

I am currently 65 level, Hoplite 1 on this character, I need some help on the remaining skill points allocation.

Sword: I added all skill points, Bash 3 for attribute (PVP).

Pelt: Level 3 guardian to match the duration with Finestra.

Hoplite: I max Finestra, Spear Throw and Stabbing, 1 point in pierce for attribute, and I have 8 remaining points to spare, not sure where to allocate.

Corsair: Max Jolly, and hook (PVP), I have 5 spare points. Need advise on this as well.

Dragoon: Honestly, I have not much idea on what skills to add. I need some advise on this in particular.

Stat wise, I have 10 cons rest dex for now. It seems that swordman are gaining a lot of hp (comparing to archer) when they level up? Do I need strength at all?

Also, if considering transcendence in mind, is it more beneficial to invest in 1h/2h spear? Please tell me if I understand it wrong:

2H has higher base damage and longer range, so it would be more beneficial for high level upgrade and trans.
1H would benefit more from shield gem socket, aka Didel Shield which has 2 sockets.

Except for this, is there any hidden benefit of using 1H/2H? Like, 1H bow gets 25% defense reduction, while 2H bow gets 2x damage on flying.

Thanks for reading this long question guys. I appreciate any of your input.

Thank you.
Tigris

#2

Come on guys, I really need some advice on this. :disappointed_relieved:

#3

u cant pvp with hop goons, u lack cc, ur reliable cc is the bind from spear throw and dethrone, ur stun from pelt not gonna help you.

#4

If you’re doing hoplite you might as well go for a pve build. Cata is superior in pvp.

Given that, you could go either Doppel or corsair for c6. I recommend Doppel for DPE (farming) and Deeds. You’ll be spamming spear throw even at high levels, that’s why I would recommend 1H spear (Geras at least).

#5

You can drop Pelt for Sw2 for more PB uptime and Restrain will be more preferred.

Hop3>Sair: Your main play here is mostly just Hook>Stride>unload skills to kill>if alive>SpearThrow(Bind)spam really outside Dethrone burst damage sniping, since most Hop skill are hard to apply for a PvP situation without Hook.

A typical Sw3>Cata3>Sair>Goon2/Lancer would be more viable in PvP aspect of the game due to their blitzing speed together with Rush&Restrain lockdown combo(given of course enemy team don’t have Ausrine).
CataGoons doing ranged & Restrained Dethrone to Trot>Rush are scary almost sure kills.

#6

Thank you guys. So if I would to use it as pve build, would corsair or doppel be better in farming? Would jolly roger be of help farming rare drops or so?

#7

Doppel it’s better, u will have a 50% phy atack buff [DoV] and Double Pain Earn that will help u lvling and drops [2x drops and Exp buff] Cyclone as bonus.

#8

Well speaking of geras, im swapping between 2 handed for bossing and geras for spear throw spam on mobbing. Question is, is geras worth investing in such as hammering and transcending? Its a 170 spear and im 290. Not sure whether its gonna be replaced

#9

Jolly is not great at lvl5, you can get some spare change(silver) and minor loot now and then but rare drop pull from JR are still hard to get,unless you go Corsair3 for JR15.
Like what @deh.lemos18 said, Dopp has more to provide in PvE with DOV, DPE and Cyclone.

Likely yes, but that depend on your play style. Geras doubles only SpearThrow damage, for other skills you’d still be using a spear with higher PA, then switch back to Geras when all other skills are on cooldown.
If you can afford the time and silver to invest on both Geras and a 2hndSpear of your choice, why not right?
I myself keep 3 rapiers on my fencer, Venier(all rounder +2 to Fencer skills), Cata(+1AAR for mobbing) and Magas(+43block when I’m on tanking duty, has bonus +22crit too)