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My view on this game [Experienced MMO player]

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#1

First of all i want to say, that i want to believe in this game. I love it, i want it to be beautiful.

There are no good 2.5D mmorpg games on market yet.

Diablo 3 is too single-playerish, Marvel Heroes Online failed at begin = low playerbase, PoE - the only one successful game, but its not a truly MMORPG anyway.

However something bother me. I hope devs will notice our feedback and communicate with us more [Dev. blog is a good thing]

1) Optimization. Devs seriously need to focus on that issue. This is the worst thing.

2) Bots. Bla bla bla. Imagine shitsloads of F2P bots. Bla bla bla.

3) Interface / Options / Chat / Addons. Why all Korean games have so similar shitty clumsy interface? Look at Archage its almost same interface like here. We need more options to customize everything. Best example is World of Warcraft - chat, customization and interface almost perfect [though i still use loads of addons there].

4) Linear locations and lack of World PvP. Personally i’m not against linear location while lvling, however i wish there was a big Open World PvP location for high lvls, where you can do some dailies with higher reward.

5) More cosmetic options in TP shop. I wanted to buy something beautiful for my character. However i was totally dissapointed, there is nothing to buy. How devs want to grab money, except for scrolls/tokens? Look at League of Legends - most cash comes from COSMETIC ITEMS!

Upd.

For those, who are in doubt about my experience, I’m playing WoW since 2005 I’ve raided in top 15 world PvE guild and achieved 2400+ arena rating.

I’ve listed LoL here only as an example, because there are no other more successful online F2P games around. Ofc i have played many other shitty MMORPG, which simply do not worth to be mentioned, like GW2, Archeage, SWTOR, Allods, RO, Wildstar, Rift, TESO and etc. All of them were shi t, despite all love i wanted to give.

I don’t want to sound too wow-fanboyisch, infact i hate WoW too. I just want a game, that can keep me for years.

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#2

@ point #5 Millions of these on their way if they take the korean versions items.

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#3

there’s no balancing in this “things that bothers” you.

almost want to flag it but since that isn’t flagable i just have to suck it up.

seriously. you didn’t put balancing in there wow. i git lvl 225 and lost interest immediately on ToS because how badly optimized and balanced sorcerer is i was very excited and i then i learn just how idiotic sorcerer and it’s summons AI is. welp.

#4

Point #4 Sounds like BDO =)

#5

Balacing is something obviously and needs to be done too. But i don’t see it as a number one priority thing.
Though tweaking some numbers each patch wouldnt hurt anyone. More balance changes = game feels alive (just like a League of Legends, each 2 weeks there are lots of changes)

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#6

I like this part
/postmustbe20oranges

#7

The fact you wanted to flag this post is quite ignorant.

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#8

it’s a joke, just to show how much i care about balancing.

dang it here we need to tell people if it’s a joke or sarcasm because no one gets it.

#9

well since i’m leaving ToS already i believe there will be people that think like me and will leave ToS jut because how bad the current condition is, people that stays ar more likely to be paying user since they invested money.

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#10

For me, the most annoyng things right now are:

  • You don’t have an option to your party report afk players inside dungeons.
  • Party match dungeon could be like WoW, looking for tank/healer for each party.
  • Optimization in really bad, can’t stand in the cities with i7/gtx 780. :confused:
#11

P much agree on all these points.

I don’t really feel like the game is as linear as people say it is though. There are plenty level 200+ areas right by the starting towns.

And there are already some add ons for the game. It’d be nice if there was official support/an easy way to install them/an easily accessible api to help people make more. But some do exist.

#12

oh, experienced mmo players, and then LOL.

#13

k thx bye tos doesnt need u

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#14

of course i know ToS don’t need me and thank you for your farewell but you should have done it in the game since i’m not gone from the forum. might wanna tweak that brain of yours a little to fit the topic.

#15

First of all:
“Experienced MMO Player”

It’s a known fact that “Experienced MMO Players” doesn’t love any other MMO’s out there as much as they loved their first MMO game.

Second of all:
I know you’re tired, go do something else productive and fun and don’t waste your time trying to love something you don’t. Same goes for anybody else who feel the same way.

#16

In case you didn’t know ToS isn’t running on some alien new game engine, why surprise that there will be botters/badly optimize. IMC themselves knew bots are incoming that’s why they designed it with restrictions as countermeansurements in the first place.
You want customizable UI? ToS doesn’t cater that deal with it. They don’t really have to add features that they, they developers don’t want to.
More cosmetic choices in TP shop? You sure you are “experienced mmo player”? It’s freaking EA, they haven’t even unblock the purchasing of TP. Calm yo tits down.

#17

Experienced? Apparently not.

1 Optimization is okay, there is just graphical bugs and bottle necks that bogs this game down, In a dungeon with 5 people I get +120fps with an i5 and shitty 5 year old amd card. But randomly I drop to 10 fps for no reason.

2 If you are an experienced MMO player, you would not mind bots. To me, they are part of the economy, they decrease the value of things gotten through pure mindless grind, and thus the value of thing gained through teamwork and skillfull play goes up. If you are a real experienced MMO player, you would use the bot situation to your advantage.

3 Same thing here, remeber what interface WoW launched with? I remeber, ■■■■■■■ couldn’t even read quest text as they ran off screen. And buggy buttons that could not be pressed and ■■■■.

4 Linear locations and lack of world pvp. It is people like you who made MMOs this way. You complain about everything and want the whole game handed to you on a plate. If there was open world locations then you would complain you need to have a map/wiki/monster list open to just play the game, and why is it that it was not part of the ui and no markers to lead you there.

5 Cosmetics has always been something that comes out over time, thought you would know…

While I say this, I do agree that all of this are problems. But they are things not worth complaining about. Either its something that is not gonna change, or will change anyways.

The only thing worth ranting about is lack of world pvp really. Because atm this ToS does seem like a pve grindfest to lvl 450 with no end in sight.

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#18

i knew OPs post was going to be BS when he put [Experienced MMO player] behind it.

#19

I have read all your arguments with facepalm. Are you serious?

I’m playing WoW since 2005, polish and optimization were perfect for those years. I’ve raided in top 15 world PvE guild and achieved 2400+ arena rating.
How you, some random casual trash, dare to doubt in me?

I’ve listed LoL here only as an example, because there are no other more successful online F2P games around. Ofc i have played many other shitty MMORPG, which simply do not worth to be mentioned, like GW2, Archeage, SWTOR, Allods, RO, Wildstar, Rift, TESO and etc. All of them were shi t, despite all love i wanted to give.

I don’t want to sound too wow-fanboyisch, infact i hate WoW too. I just want a game, that can keep me for years.

Look at this video, here are barely 15 ppl on screen and game has 2 FPS on LOWEST SETTINGS. Guy, who have recorded this, has a high end gaming PC. I would only understand this, if graphics in this game were stunning amazing.

While Vanilla Wow could easily handle 50v50 battles in Tarren Mill in 2005.

#20

Other than the optimization part that I have to disagree with @linzhang7, the rest of his points are on point regarding to what you posted.
I already mentioned ToS isn’t using any new engine, it’s OLD. Don’t bring up WoW regarding game engine, you are like telling IMC to purchase blizzard’s to create ToS, which won’t happen.