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My Feedback about ToS,the game feels exhausting

Oh boy,where do i start.
First let me tell you something about me,Im from germany 23years old and i played Ragnarok Online for about 12years,the orginal server and some 999pvp servers(maybe some people know the name Destructa,i consider myself as a pretty well known guy in the 999 pvp scene) also i played other mmorpgs for example WoW,Aion,Tera,Maplestory etc etc,but that isn’t the real point.
In this beta i leveled a swordy up to 169 focusing on becomming a fencer and a archer up to 85 that became a scout.In my current state i pretty much just feal exhausted,this is maybe because i played almost non stop in the first week of the beta with around 4-5hours sleep a day and i realy had a blast,i enjoyed the graphics,the game system itself.
Now let me get to the points.

Exp,Leveling and Quests
The rathes where/was great in the begining leveling felt pretty smooth and i tought "okay leveling in the low level goes fast but thats okay the max level will be around 600 and you are currently play almost the whole day.
Till i came to the point where the real grinding starts to ramp up,around level 160 the game just becomes a pain in the ass,i need around 2,553,976exp to level up,the mobs in my area gave me around 300-1000exp.So i started to grind since i had no quests left.The Demon Prison was pretty empty when i reached that level and grinding was okayish,it still took some time but i made around 2-3levels a day,in the current state of the game demon prison is way to much crowded 5man partys try to ks other 5man partys just to get 1-2more mobs.On the other side there was the map called Dina Bee Farm,the density was okay and so was the exp,so i leveled 1-2levels there but i saw that the motivation pretty much started to leave me,8hours straight i runn from a to b and slap the whole 2-3packs of mobs just to get around 0,1 and 0,2% exp per pack.People started to become higher levels and so the ks party also started on that map.So i started to make an archer because much people complained about them,archers are funn and pretty strong imo if you have the sp pool to spam the “enchanted auto attack” (sorry i dont know the current name of it) you will 1-3shoot the most mobs.
The reason is why i feel exausted is that i have to grind 2levels to get to reach the next area for quests,this is why i think i will stop the beta here now,because i whont reach the fencer class and the characters will also get whiped.What also makes me puke is that the rates are currently 3x than normal,i dont wanna think about the grind already when the game goes life and they change the rates to 1x or they dont change the exp tables.

The problem currently is that the mobs dont give enough exp,for example: A Honeybean gives 783 exp and is level 162 a SpionMage gives 471 exp and is level 85,the difference is almost nothing,i have to grind 2,5mio exp on mobs that give me around twice more exp than level 85mobs?!How this will be when im around level 400+?Do i have to get 20mill exp on mobs that give me maybe 1600exp if i am luckely?The exp that is needed for a level up and the exp a mob gives just dosnt harmony with each other


**Exp,Desnity,Quests**

**Rework the exp that mobs give and the exp you need for a level up,i dont say i wanna become max level in a month,but it would feel nice to make a level in around 2hours while i am still "low level",you also have to think about the bigger mass of players,not everyone can play straight 8hours a day grinding mobs,other people have a wife,kids,work a social life etc,and im sure the most people will leave the game when they see they have to login 8hours a day to make around 50% or a level up.**
**Make more redoable quests,on my way to level 160 i found 2-3npcs that had a redoable quest,i just find that this isnt enough**

**What also could be a solution is:for example if you kill 100-200types of the same mob you get an exp card,or the exp of the mob increased to a point where you get for example twice the exp from a mob,means :1k exp from a mob if you first encounter them and 2k exp if you killed 500 of them for example**

**Mob Density is way to low in some areas,why the hell there are 4-5maps with some quests but there are like 20mobs on the whole map?It just feels empty and dosnt give me the motivation to stay on the map and look at the details and stuff that belongs to that,also these maps feel rushed,just like "there you have some extra maps so you whont see your last grinding spot for 10days straight till you reach the next grinding spot**

**Channels,hopefully they add more channels,i know currently this is just an beta but if they keep just 1 channel for some maps than enjoy the ks fest of the year,where everyone will rage about each other,also you cant go to a another area because the mob density there sucks**

Classes and skills

First of all,rework the classes,Swordy for example has aoe damage all the time,while archers have to spam skills to do aoe damage that also costs pretty much mana,lower the mana rathes or buff the sp regen

I pretty much had the feeling that the most classes where just useless,everyone picked the 2-3same classes every rank because the others dont sinergy with the end circle you wanna reach or are just bad in general

Why should i take class that maybe has a cool skill but the cd of it is way to high or the skill dosnt deal enough damage?,the solution here would be that the cd of the most skills should be lowered or they change the dmg numbers,scaling


**The world,mobs,items etc**

**As i said before ToS just looks fantastic,i realy like the old "RO"charme the game has,and also i have to say the game realy had a touch of Granado Espada/Sword of the new world**

**But i also mentioned before that some maps just feel complety empty,and you just rush over them.You realy should increase the mob density or add more quests in these areas**

**Imo some mobs need a rework,sometimes they hit like a ■■■■■■■ truck and on the next map they poke you for 20damage,the best example was on a level 160map where the mobs hitted me for like 40-50damage,on the next area archers hitted me for around 2k damage! Imc realy needs to look at the numbers of some mobs again**

**What also buggs me is why there are such high level gaps between items,currently its just get the level 75weapon upgrade it to +5 and rush to level 120for the next weapon,why there are no rare or almost no items that i also wanna use in high level?They realy should add some items that are realy worth grinding for and that you will use for some levels**

**Reparing,jesus that is somewhat annoying,grind on a map for 1hour go back repair the weapoin and go back to youre place,what is the use of that?Its just annoying,surely you could argue with the point that reparing reduced the overall money the server has in low levels but you jump over the gap so fast where reparing just starts to becomme annoying and dosnt costs much monney at all**

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Well this is my summary of what i am thinking,or have problems with.Hopefully some people also share the same options or taughts like me.
**Tl-dr: Change/rework the exp tables,increase the mob density,add some more quests,rework some classes/skills,add some interesting items.**

Also i hope you fully understand what i am trying to say,i know my english isn't the best but i think it's understandable.
Greetings Destructa
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I think if they give you more stuff to do other than grind mobs all day it wont be so exhausting. Adding rested xp i think would help by allowing casual players to actually make some progress and the people who have alot of time can still grind as much as they want.

I do like the grind 100-200 monsters and get an exp card idea. I dont want more quests if theyre the same chore quests we already have. If they are more interesting engaging quests, then sure.

I’d actually like less density mobs, but stronger and give more xp.

Remember how expensive repairing and how little silver you got from selling after that one patch? Thats how its going to be. Right now its easy mode for silver cuz its beta.

Oh god I know what you feel, im level 161 Highlander and im so exhausted trying to get level 162 getting 0,1exp every 3 mobs. Played too archer lvl 70 is strong but you need to use a potion every 4 skills, too played a mage level 72 and what a useless class INT stat do 0 in mages.

And about the maps balance, please nerf wendigo archer hit for 2.5k every autoattack wtf…

Sorry for my bad english and I hope the game will be better and great.

Everyone would feel exhausted if your game time is like 9 hours and above everyday. You are like the other players who made a negative feedback about the game saying that this is boring and exhausting. My game times is 2 to 3 hours a day and on my rest day, i play like 10 hours for 2 days, to be honest, i really enjoyed this game. I mean, every content on the game.

I have also read some complaints about the quest being generic. I’d like to know what kind of quests you guys want to have for this game, Because im quiet satisfied on it. Some quests had the same format but reading their dialogue is pretty entertaining. :smile:

I dont give a negative feedback,im just saying if IMC whant a high player base they realy should change something on the curent exp rates.
And congratz that you still enjoy the game if you play 10hours a week,so you are low level and you make 2-5level in these 2-3hours you play per day/week.
Im sure you will enjoy the high level where you log in for 1hour and make 2% and log off and make 1 level per month,if you keep being interested in the game im happy to say that you surely will reach the max level in 10years well thats the spirit keep it up,thats the future of an mmorpg and im sure the other 10people that still will play the game by then will enjoy that too.
I hope you can understand sarcasmn,if not enjoy the 10hours a week and youre level 12 charakter where leveling is fast and easy.

And for the others here that trying to give me a serious answer of my bad additue how i complain about the game,first reach a high level and then try to argument with me about the level speed etc.

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Oh im sorry, i never thought you were being sarcastic. I thought you were being nice and polite. Bleh.

Anyways, there are so many technique reaching higher levels and im learning from the other forumers here. What you gonna do is socialize to the other players and ask how they reached their levels. Complaining will not resolve anything. Yeh? If they can do it, why cant we?

I’ll get back to you when i reached your level and experienced everything you say.