So I’m interested in doing a Murmillo build, thinking something like Sword>Pelt3>Rodelero3>Murm. I’ve been trying to research the murmillo class for a few days now and it’s honestly confusing me! I’ve heard that it can be a very strong class, but you may need to spend a crazy ton investing in weapons and gear. Is my planned above build viable? The reason for Rodelero is slithering mostly (attribute), but this only requres level 1 slithering right? Do other skills/levels of rodelero synergize well here? Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks fam.
Forget it, Minimal investment to play Murmillo efficiently is 8.907.500 to max Enhanced Peltasta Shield Attack attribute to 10, then another 49.526.602 to max Butterfly: Enhance attribute, then another 74.289.926 to max Shooting Star: Enhance attribute. You could settle with 80% attributes, but that’s still 20 million. And after you are done with all of that, you need to start transcending your weapon to +10, coupled with a couple of lv 7/8 red gems.
Murmillo is not for the weakhearted.
Be prepared to spend 40m± just for the four core skill attributes on murm, which are:
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/115008
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/115012
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/115013
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/115014
I made a pelt3>rod3, but after hearing what my friend said I lost all the mood to continuing it without even knowing if murm 2/3 is going to be good.
I’ll still turn it into a murm and make it into a saalus + 290 rush slave.
If you want a class that doesn’t break any wallets then QS3 Falconer3 is your path. However, there is no such thing as a cheap Murmillo build everything is expensive as ■■■■. If you want to go cheap then only the upgrade the Shooting Star attribute and headbutt. Since that is where most of its core damage are coming from.
I haven’t maxed all attributes on any of my builds is the thing. My main is a Fletcher 3 who is fairly strong w/o maxing attributes. Can it be stronger maxing attributes? Of course. I guess my question is this: Is a murmillo w/o investing a lot of money any good? Or should I just go the lazy dragoon2/fencer3 route for a strong swordy?
For PVP, Sw3 Pel1 Rod3 Murm seems to be the most cost-effective build I’ve seen. I don’t have one, but I’ve seen one wrecked my Catagoon and a lot of wiz builds so bad.
240 plate top and bottom (it was Virtov I think), slash or strike gloves (forgot which one), superior greytis boots?, Trinity sword + Didel Tower Shield, 2 x Glass Bracelet, Max peta.
As @Lostac said though, the attributes might break the bank still. Same goes for Lancer and probably other R8 C1 classes.
Are we just saying that R8 attributes are expensive in general? Is this anything particular to Murmillo? If all R8 C1 class attributes are expensive I don’t see how that is a negative for Murmillo. Just trying to decide whether to re-roll my already Sword1>Pelt2 char or not. Murmillo looks like it could be fun, tanky, and potentially strong. Mostly interested in PVE, but would also enjoy some PVP as well. Would Shooting Star + Headbutt alone be worthwhile going Murmillo for? Or am I just trying to find an excuse to keep going with my build, and Murmillo is only for the wealthy boys and girls. 
Slithering (100% strike debuff) + High Kick (100% strike debuff) + Headbutt (50% strike debuff) + any strike skills .
If you want PVE focused Murmillo then go Shinobi on Rank 7 since shinobi clones can copy shooting star.
Point is, we’re not even talking about the real damage enhancing attributes yet (those with 1% per level)
these are just general attributes and they already cost this much.
Look at fencer c3, you literally spend “nothing” on general attributes, just damage enhancing ones.
I was sure I already explained all of that in my first post.
He was asking for a comparison on other R8 Classes.
That was a sample, even doppels are several times cheaper than murmillo in terms of general attributes
Let’s say I had 5-10 million to spend on attributes (I’m poor), which would be the strongest swordy pve build at the moment? Not worrying about equipment (I’ll farm it for the most part)…
Has anyone here actually went Murmillo and invested much to ascertain that it’s not worth making without having 50+million to invest, or is this all theorcrafting and spreadsheeting? :\
Let’s not count damage enchancing attributes first
(The ones I’m talking about that give 1% damage per attribute level)
I would say fencer > doppel > murm
you really need to spend those general attributes and damage attributes on murm to be effective
I am currently Pelt 3 > Rod 3. It does good strike damage, but if you are comparing a fencer and VS pelt3>rod3 with 10m spent my money goes to fencer
you will really want to spend on those murmillo attributes to be effective, they’re too good to ignore.
Do you even have a murmillo or a fencer to base any of that on? I’m just trying to find some solid information to go off of here. I appreciate the feedback.
I have a fencer C3 that is fully geared.
and like I said, a pelt3>rod3, murmillo soon.
Your one big problem with fencer (thanks to bandwagon) is getting venier, but since you said not to mind equipment…soo
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134449ff.254555.153545.1f293f6571.15213455.1a2a4555
This would be the cheapest and one of the strongest builds as a Swordsman, just be sure to get Dethrone attribute to at least 50%, which should cost you 5.466.924 (NOTE: 100% costs 328.488.673). You don’t need to lv up any other attribute, well with the exception of Serpentine: Additional Damage, which is 855.250 and random attributes such as Guard, Plate Armor Mastery, etc., but those are cheap.
Thank you both!
//20 chars
How do you like rod3 so far (as it is, without any expectations for Murmillo)?
In terms of?
Damage? - Good, but terrible aoe attack ratio, you will always need that Five Hammer as an extra weapon to deal with multiple monsters faster
Hitbox - Some are terrible, it can’t even hit some boss monsters (ex. Salamander/Glutton) face to face, you have to hit from the sides
Rod1 is terrible, Rod2 is okay, Rod3 is great < IMO
I have a rodel 3 murmillo and I can tell you it’s pretty weak without much investment into the attributes. It also needs a huge investment in job change quest if you decided to go shinobi (both time and money).
I’ve only invested ~10m into my murmillo’s attributes and I can tell you most other classes can have it much easier (and cheaper) dealing good AoE damage. I also play two inquisitors and a PD 2 and I have to say even the clerics have amazing damage with as little as 1m~2m silver investment into r8 attributes.
Murmillos are better as single target dps, but then again, you also have other cheaper single target dps classes like fencer 3…
To be honest, anything is cheaper than Murmillo. It’s certainly one of the most expensive r8 classes (if not the most).
I think the biggest advantage is that you’re still a tanker class with good dps (when attributes are max), but then again, my PD 2 is also a support class with good dps (imo PD 2 has much better overall dps cause of big AoE, but worse single target dps).
But remember those are words from a player somewhat disappointed with Murmillos.